Re: can't view HD (ATSC) Channels in XP Media Center

Curious,
I am afraid that you think baseman has the ATI 650 Pro PCI-E combo tuner and it appears that he has the older 650 PRO Combo tuner instead
If this is the case then there are several problems first is that the older card is in fact a Hybrid tuner card and not a Combo tuner card in the true sense. This means that the two tuners can not be used concurrently and therefore MC will only allow one of them to be configured.
Also this would mean that in order to configure the ATSC tuner that another analog tuner would have to be configured on the system first since the user is running MCE2005 and not Vista.
The above problems do not exist with the 650 PRO PCI-E combo tuner since the two tuners are independent of each other and appear that way to either Vista MC or to MCE2005.
It appears that the OP is best off to install the ATI TV application and use to watch the OTA ATSC digital channels and use MC to watch the analog channels from his cable connection.
"Curious >" <<spammenot@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1FF9A750-2832-4BB8-8A7A-3325791044F9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To receive your unencrypted QAM channels you need to use the ATI application you can not get them with MC?
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2F072E67-591B-4B90-8C9C-F980287941C7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ok, so even if I don't subscribe to digital cable (only basic) OR have a
cable box (only the cable directly into my tuner card and a powered antenna
into my ATSC input connector for hD channels) I can STILL receive Qam digital
cable channels?
Then, what I thought was right, I don't NEED to have CCC installed in order
to view my chanells. That makes sense because I never HAVE had CCC running
when both my cable and HD channels were working, just Media Center.
So, what you reccommend I use to VIEW my cable digital qam channels, if
possible. I do have Titan TV (just not installed) also I d/l Cyberlink Live
(it's new) today. Thank you for your continued help : )

"Curious" wrote:

You receive cable which contains both analog and digital cable signals. It
is the tuner or STB which determines if you get analog or digital channels
or both.
The CCC control center controls the output from your ATI graphics card to
your TV. It has nothing to do with the inputs from your Combo tuner card.
There are no ATSC digital channels available over cable only QAM digital
channels.
To receive ATSC you must have an antenna connected to the ATSC/QAM input
connector on your Combo card.
"bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20A67415-B548-4D56-9CAA-988BA4C9A003@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> First off, I do not receive digital cable so I don't know if it is
> possible
> to receive digital cable channels? Also, I'm not sure if Titan TV is > the
> SAME
> as the Catalst Control Center or if it is seperate software. That is > why
> I'm
> trying to find someone who really KNOWS the ATI TV/Video cards and how
> they
> are setup, how they function etc. ATI is VERY confusing and > frustrating as
> to
> how to install, which software/drviers to use and the customer service > is
> absolutely ATROCIOUS!
>
> "Curious" wrote:
>
>> If the TitanTV application is the one that came with the card then >> yes
>> that
>> is what I want you to install and try.
>> It should also allow you to receive clearQAM HD channels from you >> cable
>> provider.
>> Which you may want to do instead of using an antenna connected to the
>> ATSC
>> OTA tuner on your 1600.
>> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >> message
>> news:1E16A046-7079-481A-99F0-91589FBEAC72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Curious, that is why I am frustrated. I AM using the latest tuner
>> > drivers
>> > from the ATI website. Do you think I should install the Titan TV
>> > application
>> > and try that? I've never used it before so I'm not familiar with >> > how it
>> > works. Thanks for your help again.
>> >
>> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I realized that it is the latest drivers for you tuner that you >> >> need
>> >> to
>> >> install and not the latest drivers for your graphics card.
>> >> Regretfully I do not have any other ideas if the ATI TV >> >> application
>> >> does
>> >> not
>> >> work independently of the MC TV application.
>> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >> >> message
>> >> news:8A52B9C0-B91D-4FF1-B282-AD4BBADE3EC9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >I do have the Titan TV installer in my ATI folder but I'm afraid >> >> >to
>> >> >install
>> >> > it! I have NOT had good luck using ATI CCC before (it has never
>> >> > worked
>> >> > and
>> >> > always screwed up my viewing in MC) so I haven't tried that >> >> > either.
>> >> > I
>> >> > think
>> >> > every time I had to install the CCC it would install or >> >> > reinstall
>> >> > drivers
>> >> > I
>> >> > either had or didn't need (i.e. WMD drivers and such) I never >> >> > used
>> >> > to
>> >> > need
>> >> > it
>> >> > though, when both my HD and cable channels worked. I could >> >> > always
>> >> > view
>> >> > them
>> >> > in MC.
>> >> > Yes, my local channels are listed starting with 1000, they just >> >> > show
>> >> > a
>> >> > black screen when I try to tune to them and then I get the
>> >> > Application
>> >> > error.
>> >> > Also, yes I am using the 8.7 Catalyst drivers.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Do you also have the ATI TV package installed and can you watch
>> >> >> both
>> >> >> OTA
>> >> >> analog and OTA digital channels using their app when you have >> >> >> an
>> >> >> antenna
>> >> >> connected to both coax inputs?
>> >> >> Do your local OTA digital channels show up starting with >> >> >> channel
>> >> >> number
>> >> >> 1000
>> >> >> in MC?
>> >> >> What release of the ATI CCC drivers are you currently using? I
>> >> >> believe
>> >> >> 8.7
>> >> >> is the latest release.
>> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:9DE954E1-249B-4F3C-87A4-E0117B9F0834@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I AM watching cable TV though (whcih >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > also
>> >> >> > detected
>> >> >> > by setup) so I think my decoder is ok. I have always used >> >> >> > Power
>> >> >> > DVD
>> >> >> > decoder.
>> >> >> > I was using 5.0 which was standard on my Dell and then when I >> >> >> > got
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > from the shop he had installed 7.0 which I obviously like the
>> >> >> > software
>> >> >> > better. 5.0 wasn't working either when I had it in the shop.
>> >> >> > Also,
>> >> >> > When
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > run
>> >> >> > Windows Decoder Checkup this is what I get:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ffdshow Vieo Decoder: MP10 Com-NO ffdshow.ax 1.0.3.1418 MCE
>> >> >> > Comp-NO
>> >> >> > Cyberlink Video/SP Dec: " " -YES CLVsd.ax >> >> >> > 6.0.0.3614
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > -YES
>> >> >> > GPL MPEG-1/2 Decoder: " " -NO GplMpgDec.ax >> >> >> > 0.1.2.0 "
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > -NO
>> >> >> > ffdshow raw video filter " " -NO ffdshow.ax
>> >> >> > 1.0.3.1418
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > " -NO
>> >> >> > PP Video Decoder " " -NO ppGenericVSD.ax
>> >> >> > 6.0.0.33.13
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > -YES
>> >> >> > Cyberlink SAC Video Decoder " -YES CLVSD.ax 6.0.0.2122 >> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > "
>> >> >> > -YES
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I find it weird that no ATI decoders are listed (they were >> >> >> > before
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > upgraded
>> >> >> > my hard drive) but then again they always showed not >> >> >> > compatible
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > well. I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > running a ATI Radeon 2400 PRO for my video card and the TV >> >> >> > card
>> >> >> > again
>> >> >> > is a
>> >> >> > ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo with updated drivers. Any other
>> >> >> > suggestions
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > MUCH appreciated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Curious" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> MCE 2005 runs on top of XP 2002. If you got to MC UI and >> >> >> >> check
>> >> >> >> general
>> >> >> >> about MC you will see that you are running MCE2005.
>> >> >> >> If you have not installed an MCE compatible Decoder on your >> >> >> >> MCE
>> >> >> >> 2005
>> >> >> >> system
>> >> >> >> you will not not be able to watch live TV, Recorded TV or >> >> >> >> DVDs
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> MC.
>> >> >> >> "bassman1969" <bassman1969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:64396BC4-56C8-4539-B53E-E159CCE12EF8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> > I'm having a problem viewing my local HD channels in Media
>> >> >> >> > Center.
>> >> >> >> > They
>> >> >> >> > load
>> >> >> >> > fine in setup (signals are also good), but when I try to
>> >> >> >> > change
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > them
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > the guide, up pops a black screen and then this error:
>> >> >> >> > Application
>> >> >> >> > Failure. A
>> >> >> >> > Critical Media Center process has failed. Please restart >> >> >> >> > your
>> >> >> >> > computer
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > try again. If the problem persists contact your hardware
>> >> >> >> > manufacturer
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > further assisstance.
>> >> >> >> > I have contacted them and have not received much help at >> >> >> >> > all.
>> >> >> >> > They
>> >> >> >> > tell
>> >> >> >> > me
>> >> >> >> > it has to be a Media Center problem. Nice. I'm running a >> >> >> >> > TV
>> >> >> >> > Wonder
>> >> >> >> > 650
>> >> >> >> > Combo
>> >> >> >> > with the latest drivers and Windows XP Media Center >> >> >> >> > Edition
>> >> >> >> > 2005
>> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> > Service
>> >> >> >> > Pack 3 and .NET Framework 2.0. Although my system >> >> >> >> > properties
>> >> >> >> > say
>> >> >> >> > it's
>> >> >> >> > Media
>> >> >> >> > Center Edition 2002 which I don't understand either...lol. >> >> >> >> > Any
>> >> >> >> > help
>> >> >> >> > with
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > problem (and why my OS is identified incorrectly as well)
>> >> >> >> > would
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > MUCH
>> >> >> >> > appreciated. Thanks...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Mark Schu
>> >> >> >> > Frankenmuth, MI
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>



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