Re: Has Microsoft killed the Media PC??
- From: "jolt" <ergoacess@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:27:15 -0500
Having explored the obvious possibilities you might want to rule out that
your video card is the problem and will simply not work with your set. There
have been cases that a ATI or nVidia video card will not work with a
particular brand or model monitor and there are no common solution other
then to switch to another brand, or use something like this
http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=1378
You could also remove the video card and setup your onboard video to see if
it works.
"Brock" <Brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Not the cable. The EDID's are the same for both the TV and the Receiver
running the 30' and a 3' 1000 HD monster cable. Come to think of it though
this should have been known, I have a Playstation 3 running into the
receiver
that plays Blu-Ray on the TV just fine so I can eliminate the receiver,
the
cables, and the TV from having a HDCP problem becuase if it's working with
the playstation 3 then HDCP is functioning correctly. I can also watch TV
when I run the SA 4240HDC directly into the receiver and out to the
television. So the problem is with 1) nVidia reference drivers (best guess
is
that this is it), or 2) Problem with Microsoft's Implementation of HDCP.
"jolt" wrote:
It sounds like the 30 foot cable "may be" your problem. I would try
moving
the computer closer to connect it thru the receiver without the 30' cable
for troubleshooting. It sounds like your not getting the EDID properly
from
the monitor, if that's the case it's either the monitor (unlikely) or a
bad
cable.
You could download EDID Viewer and try reading the EDID with the 30'
cable
to see if the results are corrupted.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/EDID-Viewer.shtml
"Brock" <Brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Everything in there comes back green except for the last item "Video
Connection Link" which is red. So no there are no problems with the
graphics
drivers according to cyberlink advisor.
"jolt" wrote:
Have you ran the Cyberlink Advisor to see if it shows any problem with
the
drivers?
"Brock" <Brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Seriously, being the tech nut that I am and having LCD and Plasma
prices
comming down I figured 2008 would be the year to update my current
home
theater and Media PC (which is myth / linux) to something all HD /
Digital. I
replicated most everything I had with the old media center that
works
almost
flawlessly.
With all the talk about HDMI / HDCP I carefully planned out my
purchases
making sure everything was HDCP compliant / ready. The system is as
follows;
Receiver: Denon AVR-4308CI (HDCP Compliant)
Monitor/TV: Sony Bravia KDL-46XBR4 (HDCP Compliant)
Media PC Components;
Motherboard: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI (HDCP Compliant)
Graphics Card: eVGA eNforce 8800 GTS 640 MB (HDCP Compliant) Running
Nvidia
Forceware Version: 169.25 Release Date: December 20, 2007
DVD Drive: LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HD-DVD Combo
Audio: Onboard Realtek ALC883 HD Audio
TV Tuner: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
It's hooked up as follows the TV is located at the front of a room.
from
the
TV I have one 30 foot long HDMI cable, buried in a wall, running to
a
closet
where all the media equiptment is stored. The 30' HDMI cable
connects
the
TV
to the receiver. Into the receiver I have My media PC graphics card
connected
to TV IN connector via a DVI to HDMI cable. For the Audio connection
I
run
Coax HD Audio out from the Media PC to the Coax TV Audio IN on the
receiver.
Connected to my Media PC is the Scientific Atlanta 4240 HDC via the
Coax
IN
on the Hauppauge Card. Since this is all digital and all HDCP
compliant
the
hookup seems pretty straight forward this should work, but the sad
fact
is
nothing works...
I try to watch TV via WIndows Media center all I see on the screen
is a
big
box Stating my monitor is not HDCP compliant and that I should use a
component video cable to display the video. I try to play a blu-ray
dvd
using
Power DVD Ultra all I get is an error stating that my monitor is not
HDCP
compliant and that I should use a component connection as well. Same
thing
when trying to run an HD-DVD.
So to try and figure out what is going wrong here I call the cable
Company
they tell me it's Hauppauges' or Sonys' fault I can't watch TV, so
I
Hauppauge they tell me it's Microsofts' fault I can't watch TV. I
have
yet
to
hear back from Sony... I Send off an e-mail to Cyberlink they tell
me
it's
Microsofts' fault I can't watch a Blu-Ray Disc or HD-DVD. I am
posting
this
here to possibly get some help on this issue from microsoft.
As I see it the issue is this; My TV is HDCP Compliant but the OS
does
not
see it that way since Televisions don't normally come with drivers.
Is
it
not
then Microsofts responsibility to provide HDCP drivers for
televisions
if
they are going to enforce HDCP so strictly in their OS/Media center
application? This seems to be the only way I can see to get this to
work,
because running a 30' component out cable across the room is just
not
an
option.
After reading numerious posts on the internet about how many others
are
seeing the same results as I am. The only conclusion I can come to
is
that
yes Microsoft has essentially Killed the Media PC because their
implementation of HDCP does NOT work. If it did I would be watching
a
movie
and not posting this here...
.
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