Re: Use my original COA ( CD-KEY) in my Toshiba laptop

Actually, you don't even need to order hardware anymore, you just buy the
OS.
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James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), FL

"CSM1" <nomail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It is easy to get a legal OEM copy of Microsoft Media Center 2005.
You just order it and some kind of hardware at the same time.

Links are prone to change: This one is good right now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116171


This version has three disks and the CODA.

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CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
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"AllanF" <not.known@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Jaime,

Thanks for your response, and I respect your opinion.

I didn't mean to imply a conspiracy theory. To me it is fact.

One tends to get a bit annoyed with constant system failures and other
errors, which occur no matter how often one reinstalls from a Recovery
Disc and subsequently spends the next two days downloading, reinstalling
and reconfiguring programs and updates.

There is a simpler and well-documented method of ReInstalling an Updated
OS - Integration/SlipStreaming... Crippled under MCE2005. OS
Repair/Recovery Console?.... Crippled! Partitioning prior to OS
Installation?.... Crippled!

Annoyances escalate. For example, try the seemingly harmless task of
Removing the Windows Component, "Sonic DVD and CD Burning" when the only
means of Backing Up your Valuable Documents are CD/DVDs. Add the
Component back? No way! Say Goodbye to your Documents, and Reinstall from
the Recovery Disc.

An entire Operating System, Media Center Edition and no Personal Support
at all from the OS Manufacturer. And just one line of Support from the
Computer Manufacturer: "ReInstall from the Recovery Disc!" That's what I
call economising.

Meanwhile, I sit here wondering when my BSOD is going to pop up again....
How I learnt to stop worrying....

One year ago I was a naive consumer with virtually no knowledge of
Windows and Computers. It has been a steep and expensive learning curve
just to watch and record the telly. My household has a little ritual
whenever someone reaches for the Big Green Button... we pray!

BTW, after a lot of searching, I found the Media Center 2005 End User
License Agreement tucked away in C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB900325$. I
assume other readers will also find it there if they're interested.


"Jaime" <jaimelobo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Allan,

Me thinks a little too much conspiracy theory there :o)

There is no "deal" between MS and PC makers to cripple the install. MS
sells the OEM copies of MCE (or any OS) to the manufacturers at a deeply
discounted price, which is passed along to the consumer by way of lower
PC prices; just imagine how much a Dell PC would cost, if they paid $300
for each Windows license. In turn, there is an agreement that it is tied
to, and only used on, that particular system - it is in essence a
one-use OS license. The manufacturers modify the setup to check to make
sure that it is only being installed on PC/Laptop with which it being
sold.

The manufacturers are also free to make deals with other vendors to
include 3rd party S/W on the system, as "value added" for the consumer.
MS has nothing to do with what other junkware ends up on your system,
other than acting as one of these vendors to sell their application
software (MS Works, for example) to the PC maker to include on the
system.

Some manufacturers allow a choice of (re)installing the OS, the
applications, or both; some in the past, even gave the option of what
apps get installed. In fact my previous HP Pavilion had options on the
OS install, you could either wipe it completely and take it back to
out-of-the-box conditions or just reinstall the OS without a format.

Alas, many more manufacturers have decided that this should be an all or
nothing proposition. Maybe because it generates less need for support -
if you mess it up, you set it back to how you got it and start over,
rather than having their support try to figure out what
app/dll/driver/etc. is missing or corrupt. Maybe it due to the deals
they make with 3rd-party vendors - they guarentee the freebie, tryware
versions will be on the system, so people will use them and (hopefully)
but the full version.

I agree, that it would be nice to just have the OS to reinstall, but if
that means the system would $100-$200 more, I think most people would
rather deal with the crapware.
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James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), Florida

"AllanF" <not.known@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Luiz,

I admire your determination.

I too would like to have the option of installing a Clean Version of
MCE2005 (no crap software, etc), and to have the options of
Partitioning, Repairing, SlipStreaming Hotfixes, etc which are
documented and described in MS Knowledge-Base Articles, as if these
things are available to everyone with a Licenced Copy of a Microsoft
Operating System. Unfortunately, they are not!

For some reason, Microsoft and Toshiba (and other Manufacturers) have
done some shabby deal to Short-Change and Dissapoint unknowing
Consumers by providing these quickly-outdated, crippled pieces of
garbage called "Recovery Discs". I can only guess that this deal
somehow improves the Bottom Line of these MultiNationals.

As far as I know, the Product Key ties your Recovery Disc and your
LapTop. To break this Tie, you need a new COA and in most cases a Clean
Install of a new Operating System. This includes changing from the
"Recovery Disc" Version of MCE2005 to the OEM Version. It is
disgraceful that MS and the Manufacturer force you to pay for a
Brand-New Licence, even though you paid for the Exact-Same Licence when
you purchased the Media Center Computer. Upgrade Options are available
from earlier Versions of MCE to MCE2005 (using the OEM Discs), and from
MCE2005 to Vista.

The OEM Discs you have found are Disc 1: XP Pro (SP2); Disc 2: Media
Center and Tablet Components; and Disc 3 (if Listed): Upgrade RollUp 2
for MCE. This RU2 is available from Windows Update, so not really
necessary on Disc. The XP Pro Set (for Media Center and Tablet) you see
is probably the same as above.

There may be some method to avoid the Requirement to Double-Pay for a
Licence in order to obtain a fully-functional Set of Operating-System
Installation Discs. If you do find a way, please let us know.


"Luiz Henrique" <LuizHenrique@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Ok Guys,

These answers are so good, but I thought the same thing that
I
have to use OEM CD and as I picked the OS in the internet and there we
can
find many different versions I don't know if the version that I picked
is OEM
or retail.................. on saturday I decided to look for another
version
( OEM ) and found two diferent versions, one with 2 CD's and other
with 3
CD's and in both case when I put then in the Cd and tried to install
they
didn't allow me to do Up-grade only new installation despite of the
other
versions of MCE 2005 that I have where they allow to do up-grade but
don't
accept my COA. As I don't decide to test the new version "OEM" because
I have
to format the HDD, I am trying to do a research in this forum to
decide waht
I can do first.

Do you know a site where I can download a original OEM MCE 2005 and
install
this in my computer using my original COA ?? In my opinion we have in
the
internet some XP pro version with the "media center"
included...........................because in the CD's I found a
README file
where they say : This CD is intended for users installing either the
Windows
XP
Tablet PC Edition or the Windows XP Media Center Edition.

It's correct find this file in the original MCE 2005 CD ??

Thanks for another opinions...................

"Nigel Barker" wrote:

On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:57:31 -0700, "JW" <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote:

You can only probably do what you want if you are trying to install
with an
OEM 2005 install CD and not with a retail 2005 CD and even then it
may not
work if Toshiba has m

There is no such thing as a Retail MCE 2005 CD only OEM versions are
available.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur
MCE MVP











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