Re: Video Error

But I am running RC1, which may have a different expiration date.

"JW" wrote:

I installed Vista Ultimate RC2 on October 7th and started running Vista
Media Center with the installled decoder on October 8th and I can still run
with it today November 15th so it did not expire.

The following link points out that the MS MPEG2 decoder is included with
Vista Ultimate and Vista Premium but not with Vista Business or with Vista
Basic so maybe it will install with these releases and then will time out
after 30 days.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/dvdcodecs.aspx


"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I see a lot of messages about the Vista Codec expiring in the newsgroups.
I'd like to know when the codec that came with Vista RC1 did/does expire
before I go crazy with installing other codecs.




"JW" wrote:

I agree that there is some problem with the MPEG2 decoder that MCE and
Media
player are using, however, you would have to try another Decoder like the
NVIDIA Decoder 20 day free trial and would need to use the Vista DVD
check
utility from TheGreenbutton.com or to manually change the required Vista
registry entry to get it to be the preferred decoder
With RC2 I was able to install the WinTV2K Hauppauge application in XP
compatibility mode so I can use either it or Vista Media center for TV.
I
actually prefer the Hauppauge application since I only use the TV tuner
to
have the news available in a window on my office PC.
"JW" <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Not enough memory can also be referring to disk space or to available
virtual memory.
How much memory do you have on your 9550 card?
Do I also understand that every thing worked fine in Visa before you
changed video cards? What card did you have before and what drivers
are
you using for the 9550 card?
I have you tried running WinUpdate on Vista or checked the ATI Website
to
see if there is a more recent ATI RC1 driver. I don't recall if the
5.11
driver is that latest for RC1. I believe there was a later one released
close to the release date of RC1.
Are you saying that you do not get the memory error when playing the
same
DVD with MCE instead of Media Player?.
515MB of main memory is certainly enough I have run both Media Player
and
MCE to play DVDs in Vista with 512MB or Ram.
"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I ran that and it did show a Microsoft mpeg decoder.

Can you think of anything else to check?

The only other thing I wonder about is the fact that I only have 512M
of
ram. When I run Media Player (not Media Center) to view a DVD, I get
an
error about not enough memory and shutting down applications to free
memory.



"JW" wrote:

Vista Media Center stores its default decoder settings in a different
place
in the registry than XP.

In Vista the key is
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media
Center\Decoder

whereas in XP the key was
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media
Center\Service\Video

(The actual value names in the keys are the same):
PreferredMPEG2AudioDecoder and PreferredMPEG2VideoDecoder

But the Windows XP Video Decoder Checkup Utility, for me, does show
which decoders are installed. It's "Set as Preferred" and Restore
Defaults" functions, do not change the Vista registry entry.

"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I tried that, and no difference. Not too surprising since the
decoder
error
happens when I try to watch live TV (with the tuner card) OR play a
DVD.

Is there some way to verify that the Vista RC1 Decoder is
installed?
Or
reinstall it?

"JW" wrote:

I suggest that you try the latest Vista Beta driver from the
Hauppauge
WebSite for your 150 card instead instead of the one you got from
Vista
Winupdate.

"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I am running Vista RC1 with Hauppauge driver version
6.0.5600.16384
from
windows update, and the ATI 9550 driver that came with Vista,
version
7.15.11.0.

Any idea what the Decoder error might be caused by?

"JW" wrote:

I have no problem running Aero or running my hauppaauge 150
card
with
the
Hauppauge 150 Vista drivers umder Vista RC2 I did have problems
however
with
RC1.
There is a built in MPEG2 decoder in Viata Premium/ultimate so
I
am
surprised that you are getting a decoder err.r.
"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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I just replaced the video card with a Radeon 9550 card. I can
run
Aero
now,
which is pretty cool. When I try using the media center to
watch tv
with
my
Hauppauge Win TV-PVR150, I get a different error now:

Decoder Error
The video decoder has either malfunctioned or is not
installed.
Please
restart
Windows Media Center or the computer.

Any ideas?

"Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:

DX 8 is not good enough for use under MCE 2005 or Vista. It
must
be
DX9
support, as well as the other items mentioned in the link.
The
software
that comes with the 150 is just a different type of media
player.
MCE
depends heavily for DirectX 9 for its rendering of the MCE
interface,
on
screen menus, overlays and the like.

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"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I think the video card/driver I have are DX8, but that was
enough
in
XP
Home
for me to view live tv from the WinTV PVR 150. I was
using
the
TV
program
that came with the card, however.

"Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:

There are specific requirements for video cards to be
supported
in
Media
Center (DX9 and other support that your ATI card probably
doesn't
support.
Video card requirements for MCE can be found here

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/partners/dfw/videocardsreq.mspx

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"Crazed Weasel" <CrazedWeasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Doug,

I verified that the Hauppauge card is listed under the
Sound
Video
and
Game
Controllers, and it has driver version 2.0.43.24108
installed.
That's
the
latest version posted on the Hauppauge web site.

I was able to install the XP drivers for my Radeon
7000.
On
the
plus
side,
my performance index for graphics went up from 1.0 to
1.9.
Plus
I
can
run
native resolution on my LCD monitor again.

However I still get the same video error message on
trying
Media
Center.
Does that make sense? I'll try again when I get the
Radeon
9600,
but I
hope
I'm not wasting time for an installation issue - i.e.
there is
some
component
of Vista that needs to be installed still.

Ray

"Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote:

Under Vista, the Hauppauge 150's show up under Sound,
Video
and
Game
Controllers in Device Manager.

You need to ensure you have two things installed.

1) The appropriate MCE compatible tuner drivers for
Vista.
There
are
.