Re: Vista and Xbox 360

Tell me about it. It is driving me nuts. I was so happy with the 360 as an
extender. I have been a Media Center user for years and up until now I have
been running 2004 which didnt have extender support, so it was great when
Vista installed and worked so well.

My router is a Buffalo WHR-G54S:
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/product-detail.php?productid=117&categoryid=30#

Firmware: 2006-08-29 1.40 (The latest available)

I'll see if I can find aother wireless AP to try somewhere.

As for the das changes, this is the prime suspect for me: "Improved network
reliability between Windows Media Center Extender on Windows Vista and Xbox
360 consoles using Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter."

That would seem to be directly applicable.

Based on my tests so far it does not seem to be a problem with Vista: wired
connection works just fine

Does not seem to be a problem with the wireless network in general: Media
connect to the Xbox and gaming work fine. Network monitor shows a healthy
yellow on the bar graph view.

Does not appear to be a wireless range issue: The same problem exists in
close proximity to the wireless router.

To me it is like something happens and the xbox momentarily decides to cut
the connection, the fact that I can play 3 or 4 songs, and the fact that it
only happens at the start of a new song suggests to me it is not a random
network dropout. It would appear the music is streaming fine, and then then
the xbox asks for the next track and then something bad happens with the
connection and it stops getting packets.

I really appreciate your help and suggestions. I do admit that it is strange
if nobody else is reporting the issue...


"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:

What make/model wireless router/access point do you have and what firmware
version is it running? Also, do you have a friend you could borrow a
different make/model access point from to try out? Offhand I can't think of
any changes in the dash update that would explain this behavior; in fact,
this behavior doesn't make much sense regardless of what's causing it :-)

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"u2jrmw" <u2jrmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for the information Todd.

I tried my experiment with wireless running in the same room as the
router,
and this time I did get the error.

It just seems like there is some wireless related issue between the Xbox
and
my router. When I watch the network monitor I get a pretty solid
mid-yellow.
Is it possible that there is some glitch that is disconnecting the xbox
shortly after connection? I don't get this problem when playing online
games
or using windows media connect with the xbox, that added with the fact
that
all was well before the fall dashboard update makes me that something in
the
xbox media center code is causing this.

I understand Vista is beta software but it appears that this is more to do
with xbox 360 than Vista. Also I find it a little strange that once it
hits
this can't play state, it does not seem to recover from it.

If I had to guess (and it is just a guess) there was some change to the
media center code on the xbox in the fall dash update that is dropping my
network connection momentarily and it cannot recover from it.

I suppose I should look at somehow getting a physical ethernet connection
to
the xbox, although it is a shame the wireless won't work.

Are there any other configuration options on the xbox or on my router that
you can suggest?

Thanks

"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:

The specific message you saw can also be triggered if your network is so
unresponsive that traffic isn't getting through in a reasonable amount of
time (which makes it look like a firewall is blocking that traffic). In
order to resolve this, I'd start by running the Network Performance Tuner
(from the Xbox 360, go to Tasks > Tune Network) in graph mode and then
tweaking your antenna orientation, access point location, etc. Also, if
your access point is on channel 6, I recommend moving it to channel 1 or
11
as they typically have lower interference (assuming you have neighbors
who
also have wireless networks). If you're still not able to get a
satisfactory experience, it would also be worth checking for newer
firmware
for your wireless router/access point to see if that makes a difference.

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"u2jrmw" <u2jrmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK Todd,

Here are my findings:

Wired connection, everything works fine.
So I thought I try wireless in the same room as the wireless router.
Well
that also worked fine. This made me start to think it was a wireless
range
issue. I looked at the network connection monitor that is in media
center
and
the weird thing is that over wireless I was getting a lower reading
(2-3
bars) than in my living room where I have the problem (normally getting
up
into the yellow).

So this leaves me with a couple of problems/concerns.

It does seem to be a network range/bandwidth issue. But the behaviour
that
once it drops and can't play it doesn't recover is bad.

Also I swear I didn't have this problem until the xbox dashboard
update. I
know they did some fiddling witht he media center stuff so maybe it had
an
impact.

Finally do you think it is worth getting an 802.11a router, will the
faster
a router compensate for the slowdown because of range?

Or an alternative like the ethernet over powerlines or something.

Any suggestions?

"u2jrmw" wrote:

Actually TV doesn't work after. Once the Xbox gets the error it gets
the
error for everything except photos...

I can consistently drop out to dash and come back in and get 2 or 3
songs...

Haven't moved the xbox and TV around to try the hard line connection
yet.

"u2jrmw" wrote:

Video has the same problem, recorded TV seems OK as do photos.

You mean plug the xbox onto the wired network? I will have to
shuffle a
few
things around to get the Xbox and a TV near the wired network.

If it makes any difference media connect via the Xbox media tab
works
just
fine.

"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:

Couple other questions:
- Does TV/video content play okay?
- If you temporarily connect your Xbox 360 directly to your PC
using
an
Ethernet cable (wireless adapter unplugged), do you see this
message?

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"u2jrmw" <u2jrmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No I don't, I even turned off the Windows firewall to see if
that
would
help.
I am running over a wireless connection using a G network and
the
MS Xbox
adaptor. I only had the Vista box running for a few days before
the
dashboard
update, but it was running perfectly. I am crushed that it's
stopped
working,
and I am killing myself trying to figure it out.

I did just discover that I do not even have to shut off the
Xbox,
just
exit
back to the 360 dashboard and then come back into media center
and
it will
play. I just did that and it played 1 song. It never stops in
the
middle
of a
song, always at the end/start. The exact error message that I
get
is:
"Audio
Error
A firewall or network configuration issue is preventing media
playback.
Search Windows Vista tm Help for information on how to set up
your
network
and firewall."

"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:

Do you have any third-party firewall/intrusion
detection/anti-virus
software
installed?

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"u2jrmw" <u2jrmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask a Vista problem.

I am running Vista RC1, I wasn't quick enough to get RC2. I
was
loving
using
my Xbox 360 as a MCE Extender. That was until a few days ago.
Now when
I
play
music (or video) throught the extender, all is well for about
4
songs
(sometimes none and sometimes 30, but usually around 4), then
it
will
pop
up
a message saying that media can't be played due to a firewall
or
network
configuration issue. After that I will just get Audio Errors
every time
I
try
and play a song. If I restart the xbox I get four songs
again...

Now all that changed was the new dashboard update. I am
worried
that in
their fiddling they made it work better with RC2 an d broke
it
with
RC1. I
even reinstalled Vista, same problem.

Can anyone help me...













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