Re: Using Media Center with an external soundcard does not work

I'm still not clear on why this is so hard.

MCE DOES have everything Home has and more.

The problem with the sound card IS NOT WINDOWS. It is a failure on the
part of the sound card vendor.

Tom
"Jaime" <jaimelobo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You're right, because when a new Mac OS comes out, you have to just chuck
the whole computer and buy a new one :o).
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey!"), Florida

"tamagutchi" <tamagutchi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I basically agree but l'd rather not spare Microsoft my wrath. They are a
near monopoly and unresponsive to the real needs of customers.

I can't see why Media Center shouldn't have the same functionality in
this
area that XP Home has.

This is the kind of problem that makes the Mac so attractive. I always
feel
that Macs are too expensive but I guess it is true that you get what you
pay
for.

"Tom Scales" wrote:

So their basic position is that "Others in our industry suck as badly as
we
do, so we fell pretty darn justified in making false and misleading
statements"


"tamagutchi" <tamagutchi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Article # 30163 Date: 01/05/2006
Problem:
Windows XP Media Center compatiblity alert (updated 10/6/06).

Solution:
Windows XP Media Center is a version of Windows specifically designed
for
integration of TV and radio features into the operating system.
Microsoft
gives the following information:


Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, available preinstalled on Media
Center
PCs, allows you to pause and rewind live TV or radio, digitally record
an
entire TV series or program category, watch DVDs and videos, organize
and
play your music collection, and showcase digital photos.
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 makes it easier to access digital
entertainment wherever you are. Here are some of the top features:

* Multi-tuner support (record two shows at the same time and watch
another
previously recorded show)
* Support for digital and high-definition local TV
* Built-in CD and DVD burning
* Windows Movie Maker 2.1 with DVD burning
* Internet radio
* Enhanced setup wizard for easier installation

(from:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/faq.mspx )

You can also read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp_media_center


Needless to say, these features, while useful for live media purposes,
tend
to significantly interfere with the vast majority of audio
applications.
Here
is an (unofficial) list of software and hardware we have found to be
unsupported in XP Media Center:

. Digidesign Pro Tools (all versions).
. All Steinberg software.
. Cakewalk SONAR (all versions).
. The iLok.
. Focusrite interfaces.
. Lexicon Omega.
. All M-Audio devices
. Edirol interfaces.
. Alesis USB and Firewire mixers.
. All MOTU hardware and software.
. All E-MU hardware and software.
. Native Instruments software.
. Waves software.
. Mackie Spike. Tracktion has been known to work, but is not
guaranteed.
. Novation X-Station series.
. TC Eletric PowerCore series.
. All RME hardware.
. All PreSonus hardware.
. All TASCAM software and hardware.
. Blue Snowball and Samson C01 USB Microphones.
. Universal Audio UAD-1 cards.

Keep in mind that this is an unofficial list. These are simply
products
that
we have found, through our experience and through manufacturer
requirements,
to be incompatible with XP Media Center. For this reason, Sweetwater
can
only
provide support for either XP Home or XP Professional.

"tamagutchi" wrote:

Q: Can I use my M-Audio device with Windows XP Media Center Edition?

A: At this time, no M-Audio device drivers are supported under
Windows
XP
Media Center Edition (WMCE). This means that any M-Audio device
designed
to
interface with your computer via USB, FireWire, or PCI/PCI-X is not
supported
for use with WMCE. Additionally, M-Audio USB devices designed to
function
without installing a driver (aka "class compliant devices") are also
not
currently supported under WMCE.

The technical support team at Sweetwater.com deals with pro-audio
recording
equipment and software from most every major manufacturer.
Sweetwater
has
compiled an unofficial list of WMCE incompatibilities that suggests
an
industry-wide lack of support for WMCE

"tamagutchi" wrote:

Yes, I have tried to install it. I re-installed the drivers
several
times
and then figured out it was a bigger problem.

"David Hettel" wrote:

Interesting, have you actually tried to install it? I have an
M-Audio
transit USB audio card that I am using right now with Windows
Media
Center
and Messenger. I router my normal sound through the main audio
card,
and
messenger through the M-Audio card. LOL Media Player goes to a
Bluetooth
stereo Headset. The M-Audio transit card is working on my
computer,
granted
that is not your M-Audio card but it does show that they can
work.

--
David Hettel

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"tamagutchi" <tamagutchi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I have asked M-Audio to write a driver that will work in Media
Center. I
doubt anything will happen. They are well aware of the problem
and
as far
as
I can tell have no interest in resolving it.

"Tom Scales" wrote:


"tamagutchi" <tamagutchi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I am really unhappy with Media Center. I use Ableton Live
which
is a
recording/sequencing program.

I have an external guitar multi-effects box which connects
via
usb.

The effects box functions as an external sound card using
asio
drivers.
Unofrtunately XP Media Center does not support this.

Does anyone have any idea about how to get around this
problem
so I
don't
have to wipe my hard drive and buy a copy of XP Pro?

Here is the message I got from the manufacturer of my
external
device.

"Windows XP MCE is not a supported OS for our devices.
Microsoft
states
in
the manual for Windows XP MCE that third-party sound devices
are
not
supported, only the built-in motherboard sound device or
card
that
originally
came with the system. This does not mean that our devices
will
"absolutely
not work", but it does mean that we cannot support the use
of
our
products
on
systems that have MCE installed. Because many Windows Media
Center PC's
will
only support one sound card at a time, most likely what you
will
need
to
do
is disable your on-board soundcard and see if your USB
device
will now
install and work properly. Also, try other USB ports on your
machine.

If these troubleshooting techniques do not work, we will not
be
able to
support you further. If you are able to use a regular
Windows XP
machine,
we
will be happy to assist you."




So my external USB Soundblaster Extigy that is connected to my
Home
Theater
and currently blasting sound throughout my house is really
not
working?!?!?

Your vendor is full of SH**. They are absolutely LYING to you
to
hide
the
fact that they are too STUPID to make it work. It is usually
a
TRIVAL
change because they have likely hardcoded the check for home
and/or pro.

Call them back and challenge them. THEY'RE LYING.

Tom













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