Re: LCD TV vs. LCD Monitor

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Thanks Dana, but it is not over DVI I am only connecting to my video card via
RCA. TV supports nothing else.

"Dana Cline - MVP" wrote:

I'd bet your 5200 won't be able to generate a stable 1080i over DVI, as mine
wouldn't. But it was fine on VGA. The lowest nVidia card (in my experience)
to handle 1080i over DVI is the 6600...

Dana Cline - MCE MVP

"PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well what I mean is I use the DVD on the MCE PC. I took the regular DVD
out
of the equation as I did not see the sense of having one other component.
If
my memory serves me correctly my living room MCE contains an EVGA 5200
256MB
Video card. I have this all connected to my Pioneer Stereo, old Sharp 27"
TV
and a cheap VCR. I think my main problem with my living room setup is the
fact that I am connecting to my TV via RCA video cable. Until I upgrade
to
an LCD TV for my living room that is the only connection I have. Strange
that I don't see any problems with MCE TV live or recorded, VCR is fine
but
DVD's suck. hmmm.

"JW" wrote:

If you have a LCD TV and you are using it as a TV then it using its own
TV
tuner and you cannot use it as a PC mnonitor at the same time. In other
words there is no PIP capability between the internal TV tuner which is
using the units antenna connection and a different input coming from a PC
over another connection.
You will get better TV picture quality using the internal TV tuner then
you
will using a PC with a tuner card since.
A previous poster in this thread discussed overscan which is the Zooming
in
about 5% of the tv video received from a PC over its component or digital
interface in order to emulate a standard CRT TV. The problem with this
is
unless you compenssate for the overscan PC desktop applications wlll have
problems since they have a lot of detail at the edges, the task bar being
the most obvious example which will not be totally visable if visable at
all.
How is your DVD connected to your living room TV and what kind of V is
it?

"PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks LW, I did not realize there was a process to switch between
tuners.
Next question then which is better tuners in LCD TV's or cards in
computers?
Just curious :) I wonder if the overscan issue you talk about could be
one
problem with my living room set up. MCE works great (as far as TV)
until
I
play a DVD then the brightness goes up and down by itself throughout
the
entire movie. UGH!

This is all great info as usual! I own a computer company that has
been
in
business for 8 years, built 1,000 + computers but I'm quite a dummy
when
it
comes to video. Originally I thought I would be leaning more towards a
TV
as
I thought it would be better and I wanted to connect my xbox 360 to it
as
well. However, I am starting to understand and appreciate everyones
opinion.

"JW" wrote:

The only advantage of an LCD TV is that is has a built in tuner which
you
do
not need since you have your Hauppauge card and I don't think you want
to
switch it completly back and forth between use with its internal tuner
and
use with it as a monitor. And as stated you get into overscan issues
if
you
have an LCD and use other then the VGA interface.
So I suggest just sticking with you have now since MCE only uses a
display
monitor for all its functions including TV and would not do anything
different if you had a TV.


"PWT24" <PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks! So what about the LCD TV's that have the same resolution
1680x1050
as the monitors you mention? Such as a Tatung V20KQDX- U03.
Although
I
am
not familiar with that brand I wonder if the PC side would be the
same
as
some of the monitors. I have to admit I do like the looks of the
Benq
20"
FP202W you mentioned. How do you think the Benq matches up against
the
Acer
AL2016w? Reason I ask is that Acers carry a 3-yr warranty.

Thanks Again for the great feedback guys!!

"John Lockwood" wrote:

On 19/10/06 03:31, in article
3552A745-B5F7-4DEE-B217-A83A8A155212@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, "PWT24"
<PWT24@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I wonder if anyone could give me some feedback on my monitor
dilema?
I
am
looking to save some space in my office by getting rid of my
conventional 13"
TV by putting MCE on one of my 3 systems. I have MCE (haup 500,
and
NVidia
5200) in my living room on an old 27" TV and the computer side
basically
sucks because you can't even read text on the pc side. So I
thought
for my
office I would go with an LCD hoping to be able to use both
features
of
MCE
(TV and PC). The only problem is I don't know which is better
for
an
MCE an
LCD TV or an LCD Monitor. Which would you choose and why? What
resolution
should I be looking for? I am thinking about Viewsonics N2060w
LCD
TV.

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

For your situation I would absolutely agree with Barry Watzman and
say
you
want to get and use an LCD monitor and not an LCD TV. If you were
planning
to do this not in your office but instead in your living room then
a
large
LCD TV (1920x1080) would be the better choice.

LCD TVs generally either produce an inferior computer image, or
cause
huge
complications when you try and match the computer resolution to the
TV
resolution.

For example the Viewsonic screen you mention is an LCD TV and like
most
such
you can connect a computer but the N2060w resolution is 1366x768
whereas
the
nearest 'normal' computer resolution is 1280x720. Either this will
result
in
black borders (wasted space) on all four sides or you have to go
through
contortions trying to customize settings.

An LCD TV with 1920x1080 resolution would actually have a matching
resolution on most computers but this resolution is typically only
available
on much larger TVs.

Also, as far as I can see the N2060w only has VGA and Component
inputs,
and
DOES NOT have a DVI or HDMI connection.

Some suggestions for LCD computer displays are :-

Apple 20" Cinema Display 1680x1050
Apple 23" Cinema HD Display 1920x1200
Asus 20" PW201 (built-in webcam) 1680x1050
Asus 22" MW221U (supports HDCP) 1680x1050
Benq 20" FP202W 1680x1050
Benq 24" FP241W (has an HDMI connector) 1920x1200

For your information, widescreen TVs are of course 16:9 but it
seems
all
computers widescreens are 16:10 this means a computer LCD
displaying a
16:9
movie will have a small black border at the top and bottom (but not
the
sides). As many movies are actually not really a true 16:9 this is
not
noticable (it shows up more on widescreen TV programs which
generally
are
a
true 16:9). I am not sure why computer widescreen displays are
16:10
since
they are made in the same factories using the same technology,
perhaps
it
was chosen as a compromise between matching movies/tv and giving
enough
height to show a decent amount of a document for computer use.

A final tip for when you get your LCD monitor, is to check what the
refresh
rate is set to. TV (and movies) will be at either 60 frames per
second
(for
US) or 50 frames per second (for Europe). Computer LCD displays
might
offer
choices of 50, 60 or 75 frames per second. I live in the UK and we
use
PAL
(50 frames per second) but the Benq screen I am currently using
with
MCE
2005 only supports 60 or 75 frames per second. If I leave it on 60
frames
per second then this is a bad match for PAL and leads to the image
jerking
(this is most noticeable when viewing 'stock tickers' on news
channels).
If
I set it to 75 frames per second then this is exactly 1.5 times the
PAL
rate
and the jerkiness is almost completely eliminated.

Cheers, John Lockwood











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