Re: Vista Beta 2 AMD and Media Center

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The issus is not one of supporting dual cores the problem with the XP X2
driver with MCE was that since MCE double buffers the input it gets from the
tuner the old XP X2 driver sometimes got the buffers out of order when
recording them to disk.
You should be able to check for the date of your CPU dirver in device
manager and if it is later then May 2005 ( the date of the XP X2 driver vix)
then it should not be a problem.
Last I heard RC1 was scheduled for release August 15th we will just have to
see if it happens next week.

"Brian" <Brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dana,

No, not a faster response to the fix nor am I saying that my problem has
to
be priority one. You obviously are taking my message the wrong way and
without a resolution.

Just would have been nice that if this is a common and well known problem
since MCE 2005, that one would think that MS would communicate this to
their
public testers. I have spent numerous days for no reason where I could
have
better use the time to continue to report and provide detail facts.
Right?

I have not heard back from MS about any "newer" builds or when RC 1 will
be
released other than later this year. Are there newer builds for public
testers?? So now I'm in limbo with my new processor and will have to swap
it
back out for my single core after sinking over $300. Again, I had no
reason
to believe that a Dual Core would have caused any problems...Vista
supports
Dual Cores.

If MCE 2005 users can fix this problem with an AMD driver, I would have
hoped that there would have been an easy solution for Vista MCE users.

Would apperciate solutions....and as a legit public tester, I have a right
to vent a valid point.



"Dana Cline - MVP" wrote:

I can't quite figure out what you want...a faster response on the fix? If
so, you're going to have to stand in line with the bazillions of other
bugs
people have reported. Have you tried any builds since Beta 2? Mentioned
this
on the beta newsgroups?

Sounds like you did file the bug report, and the resolution was "Fixed in
RC1"...if so, what's the problem?

Dana Cline - MCE MVP

"Brian" <Brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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After reading several post on these boards, it seems that there is an
obvious
problem with AMD X2 Dual Cores and Windows Vista Media Center when
watching
live TV.

As a Beta 2 tester, I have installed this OS on my newly built HTPC
originally with a single core processor and it worked flawlessly with
the
following components:

AMD 64 3200+ Venice
OCZ DDR 600 2x512
MSI K8NGM2-FID (Geforce 6150 chipset & onboard video)
ATI Elite (550 Pro)

Recently AMD has dramatically dropped their prices on their processors
since
Intel's release of Conroe. Like many people, I jumped at the chance
of
upgrading to a X2 (X2 4800+ Toledo) without realizing that there would
be
any
problems with Vista.

Once the dual core processor was installed, I started to experience
BSOD,
Freezes, Black screens, reboots, etc when watching Live TV. I went
through
the trouble of reinstalling Beta 2 on my HTPC.

I have submitted all problems and many of the solutions from Microsoft
says
that its been resolved with Vista RC1 and to wait for it to be
available
at
the end of the year. I am shocked to see that there is a fix and yet
as
a
test for Media Center, I have to wait for another release of the OS.

From what I'm reading on these boards, it seems like the problem is
related
to the management of the dual core processors and many people have
suggested
downloading AMD's dual core drivers (which are for XP only!). All
other
software and driver upgrades have not worked. Live TV will freeze up
anywhere from a couple of minutes to a couple of hours with the BSOD
saying
there's a problems with "memory management," "IRQ Less than or equal to
zero", or not mentioning anything at all. Other times the screen just
goes
black and the computer locks up, or if I'm lucky, the screen goes black
and
I'm able to regain control of the computer by pressing the Windows
button
on
the keyboard and the computer automatically restarts MC.

If this is a known problem and has been for some time, I am shocked
that
Microsoft has not at the very least posted this problem offically. No
where
in my solutions from MS did they specifically say the cause of my
problems
were and I have spent many days trying to resolve.

If the problem is an issue of management of the dual core processors,
why
does it require us to wait for Vista RC1 for the fix? Assuming RC1 is
a
fix
to this problem.

To me, this problem is going to continue to grow as more people, like
me,
jump at the oppertunity to buy dual cores without any knowledge of the
incompatiblity with Media Center.

As much as I appricate being a tester of a beta OS, I feel that better
communication should be established about this issue. Communication
goes
both ways and I've been doing my best to report this to MS.

-Frustrated.

"Jason Tsang" wrote:

It's a bit surprising that AMD/Microsoft haven't been able to
integrate
the
appropriate fixes..

I'd suggest you file a bug on the issue.

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"David C" <DavidC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Vista Beta 2 Build 5384 x32

"buckeyeboy" wrote:

Which OS?

Beta2? Build?
x32 or x64bit?
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"David C" wrote:

I have a AMD 64 dual core 4200 processor with a twinhan tv card.
The
Asus
board has the latest bios and the cool and quiet is disabled. The
tv
is
stuttering similar to what happened in MCE2005 before the AMD
patch
was
installed. This same patch won't install on Vista due to it not
being
XP.

Has anyone got a solution to this problem?








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