Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM



The update you seek would be Windows Vista Ultimate Edition.

In the meantime, you can 'hack' domain join back into Media Center 2005.
Try http://extended64.com/blogs/rafael/articles/404.aspx

Note that it is unsupported by Microsoft, and that it will cause problems
with Extenders if you use extenders.

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"mwindham" <mwindham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I just purchased a laptop replacement that had "XP Pro", and turns out it
is
XP Media Center 2002 SP2, and by your post, I guess that must mean it is
effectively MCE 2004. I was more focussed on restoring and using VS05
which
I thought required XP Pro, and for such it seems to work fine. But, had I
known it was a crippled XP Pro without a simple, no gotcha way to join a
domain....

I would not have bought the product had I known the trouble I was in for,
and I don't think this really enhances Microsoft's customer satisfaction.

I wish microsoft would post a update, download, or something that would
allow the option domain joining.
"tsm21" wrote:

While it is true that Microsoft has made no secret that MCE 2005
computers
can't join a domain, the fact that computers running MCE 2004 are able to
join a domain and MS disabled this function in the update, clearly shows
that
this was a marketing ploy to differentiate between XP Pro and MCE 2005.
Without some disabling of MCE functions, a consumer purchasing MCE 2005
could
get his XP license for less than the price of a Pro license and (as in
MCE
2004) would get everything Pro plus the superset functionality of MCE.
Its
not really fair to completely exonerate Microsoft in this case since they
did
change the way MCE 2005 is marketed from MCE 2004.
--
Tom M


"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

The company you purchased the computer from is the one you should be
complaining to. Microsoft made this information public.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/faq.mspx

Scroll down to General Information, 9th question:

Q. Can I connect a new PC running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
to a work network or domain?

A. While you can access network resources on a work network or a
domain, you cannot join a Windows XP Media Center 2005 PC to the
domain. PCs running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 are designed
specifically for home use. Professional features, specifically Domain
Join and Cached Credentials (Credentials Manager for logins) are not
included. As a result, you will be prompted for your login
username/password to access network resources after a reboot or logging
back into the PC. In addition, file shares or network resources set to
require a domain-joined PC for access will not be available. Remote
Desktop and Encrypting File System support are still included.

You new computer should have an instruction manual, or possibly and
included help file that will tell you how to access the recovery
partition, recovery CD/DVD set, and restore the computer to its "out of
the box" condition.

Additionally, there are purported hacks out there that supposedly allow
you to re-enable this capability.

The primary reason for not allowing joining to a domain was the
introduction of the Media Center Extenders. Since they rely on the
Fast User Switching portion of Windows XP. In a domain environment,
Fast User Switching is disabled. If they allowed joining a domain,
then people who didn't do their homework on the Extender devices would
complain because it would only work when no one was logged into the
host computer.

--
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Display\Security
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"Jemima" <Jemima@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I just purchased a brand new computer with MCE 2005 and NEED to join
my
domain because that is where all my files, and my children's
homeschooled
programs, etc. are located. It is imperative. Last I had checked into
it,
there was no problem with MCE and domain log in.

Now, I am stuck with a computer that does not have this ability as my
new
school year is coming to a start and I need this capability. WHY on
earth
would microsoft disable this?

I don't have a clue how to go about reloading the software to have a
the
chance to change this during setup. Surely microsoft realizes that
these
computers come with the os already installed and they are making what
should
be a pleasant occasion filled with misery because the darn computer
is
rendered useless for what we need it for.

WARN your customers about what your programs NO LONGER do because
they may
believe they will be getting a functioning computer.

This is a joke and I am furious.



.



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