Re: HELP... can't get it connected to my router for internet etc..

Since you're connecting via CAT 5 cable, the "channel" isn't the issue, this would only apply to wireless connections.

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"Chewyy" <Chewyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:14E2BBA1-C936-4E04-8B8F-EEDCC096530D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I'm an idiot... I got my numbers messed up in my head, like you said and I
originally stated, the computers all use the 192 range not the 169... I just
got them mixed up there. When I first set up the computer I think it did ask
me for a channel or range or some such thing and I think I may not have
picked the correct one... Do you know how to correct that? Or how to get the
channel from my other computer that it uses and then reconfigure my new one?
It seems to me that maybe that might be the problem. Thinking back it seems
that when I set up my laptop I had a similar problem and Gateway or Linksys
told me to change channels and that fixed the problem. May not be the
problem but I don't remember how to find out what channel I'm on...? I have
a Linksys router and I think it's the WRT54G although I'd have to check when
I get home to verify this...

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

In your original post, you said:

"Now the other computers on my network
all are set to obtain the IP automatically and they have IP Addresses of
"192.168.1.101" then the next computer will be the same but 102 on the end.
Then they have a Subnet Mask of "255.255.255.0" and a Default Gateway and
DHCP Server of "192.168.1.1". When I manually configure the network"

This indicates that the DHCP server in your router is working. The computer that is getting 169.254.8.143 is not talking to your router effectively.

In addition to the possibility of a bad cable, or adapter, you might have inadvertently set up your router for a limited range of IP address assignments. Without knowing the specific model, I can't tell you where to look. For a D-LINK router, it would be under the Home, DHCP settings, Starting and ending IP address. If you set this for a range of 4 devices, 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.5, and tried to connect a fifth device, it wouldn't be able to obtain an IP address.

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"Chewyy" <Chewyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:5122F590-0355-4D7A-B588-134286A3D899@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks to both of you that replyed. Doug, the 169 range IP is what all my
computers have... does this mean I don't have a DHCP server? Is this
something that I set up wrong?

I will try your advice tonight or tomorrow and hopefully won't have to
repost after that... hopefully! :)

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

It sounds like you have a defective CAT 5 cable, or possibly the NIC in the new computer. The IP address range of 169.xxx.xxx.xxx is what you'll get when there is no DHCP server, such as your router available. Either try connecting with a different CAT 5 cable, or if you have a spare wireless adapter that will work with the laptop, use it.

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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:mn.53ff7d66ed601424.1980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 6/10/2006, Chewyy posted this:
Hi, I'm new here and looking for help. I have two computers (one desktop and
one laptop) and two Tivo's on a home network with a Linksys G router. THe
laptop and Tivo's use the wireless part and the desktop is plugged in via a
CAT5 cable from the router. I just got another desktop for me (the other is
my wifes). This new computer has Windows XP with media center software (I
think version 2002 but HP says it's 2005... ). I plugged the new computer
into the router but I can't
seem to get it to hook up to the network properly so I can get internet and
file share etc. I've done the setup
wizard and tried numerous other proceedures from help faq's as well as
others but I can't seem to connect properly. It says it's connected but says
"This connection has limited or no conectivity. You might not be able to
accss the Internet or some network resources...". Now when I leave the
"Internet Protocal (TCP/IP) to "Obtain an IP address automatically" it gives
me the conctivity message above and assigns an IP Address of "169.254.8.143"
and a Subnet Mask of "255.255.0.0". Now the other computers on my network
all are set to obtain the IP automatically and they have IP Addresses of
"192.168.1.101" then the next computer will be the same but 102 on the end.
Then they have a Subnet Mask of "255.255.255.0" and a Default Gateway and
DHCP Server of "192.168.1.1". When I manually configure the network
connections IP Address and Subnet Mask to match the other computers (adding
one to the last number on the IP Address) it doesn't connect at all. I can't
figure this out and it's driving me crazy. I would dearly appreciate your
help in this. Is there something I need to do on the main computer or am I
missing something on the new computer? Do I need to change the "channel" of
the network card and how do I do that and how do I check my other computer to
see what channel they are on? I've tried everything I can to get it to work,
including all kinds of stuff I've found on HP's website and Microsofts
website but nothing seems to work. I could really use some help if anyone
can help me get this to work. I really really need to get this connected so
I can use my internet connection. Also, do I need to do anything on the
main
computer to get it to recognize the new computer or should I just be able to
hook up the new computer and set it up from there? HP said something about
maybe needing and "extender"??? what is this and would it help? I really
need help, Looking forward to
hearing from you. Tom.

What you are doing in assigning IP addresses looks good to me. The DHCP
is weird, as you say, but your manual choice of 192.168.1.103 or
whatever and 255.255.255.0 looks good.

At this point I suspect a firewall on the new computer is blocking your
connection. I assume Windows Firewall is on by default, but configured
wrong. It is also possible that settings on your router are blocking
the new computer.

Besdies that, there are always ways hidden in the network setup panels
to screw you up, of course, and I have no ideas beyond the firewall.

Do you know how to ping? Open a command (DOS, formerly) window and type
ping 192.168.1.101 or similar. You should see four successful connects
with times of a millisecond or two, but probably won't.

I would start on a 'good' computer, ping its own address as well as
127.0.0.1 (which means "me") and look. Then ping 192.168.1.1 (the
router), then the other good computer, then the bad one. Repeat on each
computer in turn. Try it on the bad one even if the others couldn't
ping it.

Also in the command window, try the command ipconfig /all which will
tell you some mysterious things, including, if you're lucky, the
"Physical address" - looks like an IP address with six pairs of number
in hex - this might help you get the router to allow your new box (but
I doubt it - it's usually only required for wireless). It's also called
MAC address (Media Access Control, not the computer from Cupertino!).

Pretty random remarks; I hope they're useful.

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