Re: Xbox 360 does not see Media Center PC - AGAIN

Okay, seems we're back to where Todd Bowra of Microsoft is checking on the
situation. 8-( Sorry.
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
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"Mike" <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yep.. FUS started and automatic.

What I have checked/done to confirm all is fine

1. All ports required for Media Connect are open - in fact disabled
Windows
firewall just in case to check also

2. All Services required are started and automatic (for those with similar
issues to mine be sure you check Fast User Switching and Workstation are
running - along with ports this seems to fix most).

3. Looked at logs, security, Media Center etc. nothing jumps out. Some
DOMC (or something like that as a warning but that seems to be a temp
memory
thing.

4. Confirmed Router Firmware

5. Recycled several times (i.e. shut everything down and go through again.

6. Uninstalled and reinstalled Windows Media Connect (and Media
Extender) -
this last time this was an issue and while it may have added to the
problem
it was not the problem. The potentail add is that when I went to delete
Media
Connect from the add/delete folder this last time it just went away
(versus
going through an uninstall, Of course the directory and presumabaly
everything else related was still there. So manually deleted the directory
(no registries or anything) and
attempted to reinstall. Disabled the "this pc is connected to a media
center
pc" in Xbox so that I could get another 8 digit code for the reinstall
(otherwise you will not). Went through the new Media Connect install and
right after it took the 8 digit code it says "Can not find Xbox - and you
end
up getting botted out of the install after 3 attempts. YET, the Media
Connect is a program which you can start and says Xbox is a device that is
connected! AND the Xbox still connects to live, still shows proper network
info etc.

7. Lastly if this helps. When I run the "test Media Connection" on Xbox
and it fails on 'Computer' the get more info codes it gives are (if this
means anything to anyone

W: 0000-0021
X: 0000-F001
Y: 0000-0000
Z: 8016-0584
Registry of Devices

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaCenterPeripheral\DeviceTable]
"HostID"="{A2A90C80-F549-4E08-B945-452116ADDA07}"
"DefaultPCDiscnActn"=dword:00000004
"TotalSessions"=dword:00000005
"InOOBE"=dword:00000000
"DevDiscBalloon"=dword:00000000


"Chris H." wrote:

You do have Fast User Switching turned on and functional in the PC's
Services, correct?
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Mike" <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hey Chris,

Nope no third party firewall, only Windows, have multiple times
confirmed
ports ar eopen and several times even tested with it disabled.

"Chris H." wrote:

I'm not attempting to step on what Todd's doing, but I see no mention
anywhere (could have missed it) about what anti virus software or
third-party firewall you may be running on that PC. If you've got
anything
Norton (Symantec) or McAfee or something like ZoneAlarm on there, I
would
uninstall it and begin the setup process again. They will interfere.
Also,
if you're running Windows Firewall "sometimes" - very unusual, but it
happens - there are some settings you would need to apply as described
in
this Knowledge Base article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911728/en-us
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Mike" <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Chris,

Thanks - tried all of the options, no go. Pretty much everything
was
fine.

Also as to MCRD group - it is there, it is just there are no users
in
the
group. Perhaps (seeing I had a user in it MCX1 when it was working)
the
reason it does not now is becuase the Xbox can not see the PC? Or
should
there be a user there as part of the install of WMC or MCE regarless
of
wether it has connected or not?

Just trying to figure out what the issue could be and checking all
options.
It seems based on Todd's mail, that I maybe should have
somethingdifferent
in
my extender devices registry? Who knows, I just know that it can
not
be a
network issue (I get Xbox live and it sees my PC name etc on the
Xbox),
it
can not be a firewall, I have all the ports open and have tried even
disabling the thing totally - and have no other, not a firmware
issue
have
the most recent and the Router even had an Xbox 360 logo on it, not
a
services issue - all running.

In all of the installs/reinstalls of MCE or WMC they never have
completed
(since it has not worked) i.e. finshed install becuase it can not
find
xbox
after the 8 digit code is entered. When it was working for a couple
of
days,
even then it did not seem to complete the install, but did connect
to
the
Xbox. And even last install WMC had the Xbox as a device (though
nothing
was
working) now it does not even have it listed as a dvice to enter..
it;s
like
I keep going further back.

It's sad becuase I love the games, but the main reason I bought an
Xbox
was
to be able to stream my albums, videos and music - i dont need it as
a
DVR
though becuase I have tivo - but a bummer non the less.

Any other ideas?

"Chris H." wrote:

Mike, see if this Knowledge Base article will help your situation
(or
maybe
revisit it): http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911123/en-us?sd=xbox
You
may
also be able to add the MCRD Group by right-clicking My Computer,
selecting
Manage; then expanding Local Users and Groups; followed by
right-clicking
Group, then select New Group.
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Mike" <Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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One more thing to add to the below message. I am still trying to
figure
this
out and I just went to Admin tools and looked at the groups and
the
users.
Something seems wrong here as while i do have a MCRD Group -
there
are
no
users in it. It seems when I was working there for a bit it had
a
MCX1
user
in it and MCX1 also was a user - it is now not anywhere??

I fear that all of the reinstalls in an attempt to get this going
is
an
issue. While I can still have access to add/delete "Media Center
Extender"
via add/remove new programs, I do not have a listing for 'Windows
Media
Connect" as it does not show up - though it is a program.

Also as a further follow up to the last message, perhaps I would
have
not
needed Windows Media Connect. if when i first went to the Install
on
the
Xbox
it would have seen it. But on the Xbox after you get "go to
microsoft.co/extender" - then download and the program can;'t
find
when
I
run
on PC - you hit continue on the Xbox and it says "step 2 - now go
to
Xbox/pcsetup" or some such.

Seems to me that ms.com/extender is the extender program and
xbox/pcsetup
is
the WMC program. Perhpas I do not need both but becuase the Xbox
did
not
"see the PC" when the first was tried it is why it told me to go
to
the
second download.

FYI the two files seem to be almost exactly the same. One has
finishes
in
EDU and one EDU-1.exe. Both are 20.6 megs. And both install
interfaces
seem
to look the same.

I had cleared/delted the logs prior to this last attempt to
install
and
when
I reviewed them after they show mostly like it was all good
"install
successful" with the expcetion that you can see lines related to
"can
not
find xbox or extender device" type thing.

Still trying. I just wish there was a way to totally blow out
(i.e.
uninstall) WMC, as likely the folders and the couple reg things I
found
were
not enough.

Thanks

"Mike" wrote:

Hi Todd,

Thanks for taking time to reply.

First, I do have a Media Center PC. My Media Center on the PC
functions
fine. I do not have any firewall aside from Windows. I have
checked
multiple time to insure the ports are open (they always were)
but I
had
also
event tried with Windows firwall diabled, same story.

Ok, now here though is were I am a little confused by yuour
message.
I
do
understand that folks that DO NOT have a Media Center PC can use
the
extender
functionality of Xbox via Media Center Connect by clikcing on
the
Pictures or
Music functions of the MEDIA Blade of Xbox (byu the way when
Itry
to
access
the PC that way, as I have tried, same story can not find PC).
For
people
like myself though, we hit the "Media Center" button on the
Media
Blade
of
Xbox and it (originally and everyttime I delete and retry) comes
back
with a
messagr that to connect your mMedia Center PC to Xbox, go to
Xbox,com/setup
(or some such). You do so, and it downloads Windows Media
Connect.
You
run
it on your PC and it comes to a point where it wants the 8 digit
code,
I
get
it from Xbox enter it, and At this time, Windows Media Connect
install
come
sback with can not find Xbox - but... after 3 attempts to find
it
it
ends.
BUT then I see new programs installed and there is Windows Media
Connect
(along with resource manager running in the lower taskbar). I
hit
it
to
start, it says Xbox is a device and seems to start, and run
fine.
Even
has
the Xbox properties as far as serial number etc.

Now, having said this, at one point all was working. I had the
same
issue
(or close) with the Media Center Connect install program but...
it
would
at
least get the Xbox/Tv to go to the black screen acting like it
was
going
to
start - and then it was working for 2 days - EVEN THOUGH WHEN
YOU
WOULD
DO
THE MEDIA CENTER "TEST CONNECTION" test, it would fail on the
PC?!
This
morning, boom same back to the same rub. So I go back, check
everything,
nothing has changed, etc. So I try to uninstall Media Center
Connect
and
(basically the message I write below). So.... I got no clue.

Incidentally, as of pulling this message, I have manually tried
to
delete
WC
so the registry info here is post having deleted the WC diretory
and
the
two
registry folders that were titled WC (probally makes no
difference
on
the
folder info shown here, just wanted to clarify. Ihad did this
becuase
I
was
going to try another WC install.

One last question before posting that reg folder, how could I
access
the
Xbox without WC even if I have a Media Center PC? Becuase it
seems
from
what
I understand even though people w/o one can use the Xbox as an
extender,
but
people with a Media cetner PC still need it - or at least
download
the
program to download? If not I don't get whay the Xbox when
first
trying
(Via
the Media Center button on the blade - not the others) tells you
to
download
WC? Again, thanks for your help.



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