Re: Audio iPod and MCE
- From: mosxs <mosxs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:12:02 -0800
How many frivolous lawsuits that do "go through" are legitimate lawsuits?
They go through because the law says they have to go through. The woman suing
McDonalds for her hot coffee spill comes to mind.
I said *write* to NTFS disks. Not read. Mac OS X can read NTFS drives just
fine, as can Linux. But writing to a drive is another story. And another
example of MS supporting closed and proprietary systems. Even MCE uses their
own proprietary file format for saving recorded television shows. I recorded
a show tonight and wanted to compress it. Windows Media Encoder didn't even
recognize the file format. Nero on one PC wouldn't compress the video, only
audio. Videora didn't compress it at all. Why couldn't MS give options? My
system is fast enough to record to h.264 in real time, why doesn't MS support
the standard that all other hardware and software on the market does?
"Dana Cline - MVP" wrote:
Linux can read NTFS disks just fine, as can any number of free DOS-like.
operating systems. Maybe Apple doesn't _want_ Mac users to read NTFS drives.
Microsoft licenses Windows Media DRM to anyone, but no OS vendor has
bothered. However, you can certainly take any PlaysForSure device that looks
like a USB drive and attach to either Mac or Linux with no problems.
Frivolous lawsuit or not, the courts are allowing it to proceed, so there
must be some substance there. As the Microsoft case shows us, when any one
company owns 80% of the market, they're considered a monopoly, whether the
government or a private party files the antitrust lawsuit is immaterial to
the facts.
Dana Cline - MCE MVP
"mosxs" <mosxs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Apple doesn't have to license their standards to anyone. I don't see
Microsoft licensing NTFS to Apple or Linux companies so their operating
systems can write to NTFS drives. I don't see Microsoft licensing the
Windows
Media formats to non-Microsoft operating systems. Apple's standard IS
cross
platform. You can use their hardware and software on a Mac or Windows. How
many of those "PlaysForSure" devices play on a Mac or Linux? I may not be
able to use the iTunes Music Store on Linux, but I can certainly use an
iPod
and AAC files on Linux.
That law you speak of is not aimed at Apple. Apple just gets the most
attention because they're the biggest player in the digital music market.
The
law France passed targets *ALL* DRM, including Microsoft's DRM, DVDs, etc.
Any DRM scheme that does not allow music or video to be played on any
device
is being targetted. So basically, they're making it legal to crack the DRM
from iTMS or from a music rental service like Napster.
The difference between Apple's ONE monopoly lawsuit is that it is a
frivolous lawsuit. Have you read the content of the complaint? The person
who
filed the lawsuit is obviously out to get money. They are seeking a
portion
of the profits from iTunes and iPod sales.
Microsoft's anti-trust lawsuits were brought on by GOVERNMENT bodies in
the
US and EU for illegal business practices. MS was found guilty in all
cases.
Microsoft forced their software installed, and forced OEMs to choose only
Windows or nothing at all. That is illegal. Apple has done nothing like
that.
They simply sold the best product on the market and became the market
leader
through legal practices.
"Dana Cline - MVP" wrote:
Um, it's Apple's fault for not licensing those standards to _anyone_.
France
recently passed a law requiring DRM interoperability, and Apple said
they'd
rather pull out of France than license their DRM. So blame Apple...
And after they called MS a monopoly with 80% of the OS market, so now are
lawsuits winding their way thru the courts calling Apple a monopoly in
the
iTunes/iPod market...
Dana Cline - MCE MVP
"mosxs" <mosxs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Actually, when it comes to DAPs, it's an Apple world. 3/4 of the market
is
Apple, 80%+ of the digital music market is Apple. In this sense, it is
Microsoft's fault for not support Apple's standards.
PlaysForSure hardly guarantees a seemless experience. Have you looked
at
the
support forums for Creative or iRiver products? The firmware updates
required
for many "PlaysForSure" players can brick them! The updates required to
Windows and said players can also cause enough damage to the Windows
installation that a full format and reinstall of the OS is needed to
even
get
the PC to recognize the player.
Furthermore, a lot of the hardware manufactured by Creative and iRiver
have
problems. The Zen Micro was known for a faulty headphone jack that went
bad
after just a few months of regular use. And iRiver is known for poor
firmware
that can't even organize music properly.
As I said, Apple has over 3/4 of both the hardware and digital
downloads
market. Microsoft is the one that is refusing to adhere to standards.
Them
and their hardware partners who couldn't make a reliable piece of
hardware
if
their life depended on it are the ones who are hurting the consumers.
Apple has sold over 1 billion songs through the iTunes Music Store. I
guarantee you that the combined sales of ALL WMA stores wouldn't even
come
close to half of that total.
Apple sold over 20 million iPods last year. The combined total sales of
"PlaysForSure" devices wouldn't even equal half of that number.
Somebody is doing something wrong and it sure isn't Apple.
I know I'll get branded as an Apple fanboy. But the only reason I'm
posting
this is because Microsoft needs to open their eyes. They've fallen way
behind
Apple, not only in the online music market, but in the OS market too.
Their
overbearing DRM standards show that the have lost touch with consumers
and
will continue to lose consumers unless they change their tactics.
I can't even install my legally purchased copy of Windows XP on my
desktop
PC anymore, without calling to have it activated, because of their DRM
and
the fact that they've lost touch with consumers and decide to treat
them
like
criminals instead of people.
"Scottitude" wrote:
The tool you need is a different DAP. iPods are great...if all your
hardware
is Apple or if you don't know any better. It's a Windows world my
friend
and
practically everyone but Apple makes a DAP utilizing "Plays for Sure"
technology which guarantees a seamless Windows interface. Practically
every
iPod-comparable DAP out there has better output and a better sound.
My choice was a Creative's ZEN Micro and I haven't regretted it. WMP
intuitively recognizes it and syncing is a breeze. Plus, I can load
numerous
file types instead of trying to convert everything to a proprietary
Apple
format.
iPods are the most over-rated gadgets on the market and Apple's
refusal
to
support Windows hardware is just pathetic arrogance that only "hurts"
the
consumer.
~S~
"Fil Mackay" wrote:
I have been trying to get my iPod to sync with my MCE. Easy I
thought.
Yeah
right.
The best I came up with is XPlay (commercial product for WMP not
really
MCE), but it has issues: bugs, and it converts to MP3 before
syncing.
What I am looking for is a seamless sync (native in MCE) to iPod,
where
the
songs will be converted to AAC format (not MP3!) from my library
(lossless
WMA).
Does anyone know of a tool to do it? If not, I'm going to write one.
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