RE: Audio iPod and MCE
- From: mosxs <mosxs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:39:01 -0800
Have you actually read the support sites? Go to Creative's site and check out
the posts there. The majority of problems they have are hardware failures of
some sort. The majority of problems at Apple's site are from Windows users
who didn't read the manual.
The only reason Microsoft has so much marketshare with OSes, marketshare
that is shrinking by the way, is due to their illegal business practices. If
they hadn't used those illegal tactics, which they were sued by government
bodies for and lost the cases, they wouldn't haven early as much marketshare
as they do now.
In the years I've spent browsing support forums, I have seen only two iPods
with headphone jack problems. They were treated EXTREMELY rough. You can go
to Creative's site and see literally hundreds, if not thousands of posts from
people who have had their ZM headphone jack die from every day use. If yours
has not died yet then you should consider yourself incredibly lucky. My iPod
is over a year old now and it works just as good as the day I bought it. It
has had a year of very heavy use everyday with the headphone jack going
through a lot of use.
Why would you buy an extra battery for an MP3 player? That is a waste of
money. One will not get used properly and will die from old age and little
use. The battery in iPods always lasts as stated, if not longer. The iPod
mini, which I have, is rated at 18 hours but regularly gets 24 hours. Other
iPods regularly get 2-4 hours above their rated play time. That's stupid to
buy an extra battery. You know what? You don't have to send Apple your iPod
to get the battery replaced either. Anyway, why are you complaining about
that? How is that any different than buying a new battery from Creative?
Ridiculous. When you send your iPod in they give you a new unit in return.
For $60 you get a refurbished unit in return that has undergone a complete
rebuild and QA test. You can replace the battery yourself too. Takes a whole
5 minutes and double capacity batteries are a regular thing. No doubt that
you'll be able to make a 60GB 5G iPod a 40 hour machine when you replace the
battery in a few years.
Have you ever used the Click Wheel? It's a lot faster and easier to use than
Creative's touch strip. First, it's not overly or under sensitive like
Creative's offerings. It works perfectly. I can go through a list of 100s of
artists in one circle. I can navigate to a single song in a library of
thousands a lot faster than someone with a touch strip player can. Try using
the player before you try to criticize it.
"Scottitude" wrote:
Just because 3/4 of the market succumbed to Apple's "iBono" marketing doesn't.
make the product the best there is. iPod support sites clearly illustrate
that they have the exact same problems as non-Apple devices. Also, people
typically post in a support forum because they *are* having a problem.
If we're to follow your logic about ratios and percentages, since well over
90% of computer users use a Windows OS, shouldn't Apple should be running a
Windows OS? It has to go both ways or the argument is fatally flawed.
I have one of the ZMs that, based on what I've read, should have a headphone
jack problem but it doesn't. Furthermore, the player and the firmware have
performed flawlessly. Make of it what you will but it tells me that most
"jack problems" are caused by the way the owner treats the DAP. I've seen
numerous posts on both Apple and Creative forums where people complain that
the "most abusive" thing they do is wrap the headphone cable arounbs the
player and drop it in their backpack, but they always treat it gently
otherwise. There's your headphone jack problem; user abuse, not product
defect.
When the battery in my Creative ZEN Micro is fully drained, I'll insert the
brand new spare battery that came packaged with the player. How do you
replace an iPod battery? Oh, sorry, you can't; you have to send it back to
the factory AND pay them money to do it for you. Sorry man, iPod is an okay
player but Apple's concept of consumer-friendly is laughable and I'm almost
certain the "patented click-wheel" will eventually become the subject of
repetetive stress injury lawsuits.
The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, not an endless
circle. Cheers to Apple's marketing genius but Creative's interface and
multi-platform compatibility makes it the superior choice for anyone who
values function over the trend-factor.
"mosxs" wrote:
Actually, when it comes to DAPs, it's an Apple world. 3/4 of the market is
Apple, 80%+ of the digital music market is Apple. In this sense, it is
Microsoft's fault for not support Apple's standards.
PlaysForSure hardly guarantees a seemless experience. Have you looked at the
support forums for Creative or iRiver products? The firmware updates required
for many "PlaysForSure" players can brick them! The updates required to
Windows and said players can also cause enough damage to the Windows
installation that a full format and reinstall of the OS is needed to even get
the PC to recognize the player.
Furthermore, a lot of the hardware manufactured by Creative and iRiver have
problems. The Zen Micro was known for a faulty headphone jack that went bad
after just a few months of regular use. And iRiver is known for poor firmware
that can't even organize music properly.
As I said, Apple has over 3/4 of both the hardware and digital downloads
market. Microsoft is the one that is refusing to adhere to standards. Them
and their hardware partners who couldn't make a reliable piece of hardware if
their life depended on it are the ones who are hurting the consumers.
Apple has sold over 1 billion songs through the iTunes Music Store. I
guarantee you that the combined sales of ALL WMA stores wouldn't even come
close to half of that total.
Apple sold over 20 million iPods last year. The combined total sales of
"PlaysForSure" devices wouldn't even equal half of that number.
Somebody is doing something wrong and it sure isn't Apple.
I know I'll get branded as an Apple fanboy. But the only reason I'm posting
this is because Microsoft needs to open their eyes. They've fallen way behind
Apple, not only in the online music market, but in the OS market too. Their
overbearing DRM standards show that the have lost touch with consumers and
will continue to lose consumers unless they change their tactics.
I can't even install my legally purchased copy of Windows XP on my desktop
PC anymore, without calling to have it activated, because of their DRM and
the fact that they've lost touch with consumers and decide to treat them like
criminals instead of people.
"Scottitude" wrote:
The tool you need is a different DAP. iPods are great...if all your hardware
is Apple or if you don't know any better. It's a Windows world my friend and
practically everyone but Apple makes a DAP utilizing "Plays for Sure"
technology which guarantees a seamless Windows interface. Practically every
iPod-comparable DAP out there has better output and a better sound.
My choice was a Creative's ZEN Micro and I haven't regretted it. WMP
intuitively recognizes it and syncing is a breeze. Plus, I can load numerous
file types instead of trying to convert everything to a proprietary Apple
format.
iPods are the most over-rated gadgets on the market and Apple's refusal to
support Windows hardware is just pathetic arrogance that only "hurts" the
consumer.
~S~
"Fil Mackay" wrote:
I have been trying to get my iPod to sync with my MCE. Easy I thought. Yeah
right.
The best I came up with is XPlay (commercial product for WMP not really
MCE), but it has issues: bugs, and it converts to MP3 before syncing.
What I am looking for is a seamless sync (native in MCE) to iPod, where the
songs will be converted to AAC format (not MP3!) from my library (lossless
WMA).
Does anyone know of a tool to do it? If not, I'm going to write one.
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