Re: Xbox 360 and Media Center Connectivity Problems

So, the problem I have is simply caused by trying to use an ad-hoc connection
between the media center pc and the xbox 360.... I will try this fully
(long) wired this evening and hope that solves the problem. If it does then I
will have to try and research a wireless router/access point that will not
deter the extender and media center from holding a connection... any links to
proven equipment would be appreciated from anyone that reads this.

Chris, thanks very much for your assistance - hopefully I can come back
tomorrow and say it worked...

"Chris H." wrote:

Correct. Both wired to the router is best. Second is Xbox 360 on wireless
(accessing both the Internet and the MCE) via the router, with the MCE wired
to the router.

You should not have both the 360 and MCE machines wireless. The performance
will kill any streaming you might want to do.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Spooky" <Spooky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Believe it or not I have set up a variety of networks for some of my
companies, with mixtures of wired and wireless and vpn access... yet this
has
got me... feeling sad ;-)

Ok, I have a wireless g connection for internet access for my media center
pc (not for the xbox 360) by way of a wireless g desktop lan adaptor (pci
card) to a wireless modem/router.

The xbox 360 is currently wired directly to the media center pc (by way of
devolo powerline adaptors). The xbox 360 only gets its internet connection
through the pc by way of the wireless adaptor sharing its connection with
the
lan (and it connects to xbox live with no problems).

From the example that you gave, would the following scenario work:

Xbox 360 wired to router
Media Center pc wired to router
Router wired straight out to the internet.

If I wanted to avoid having to hard wire the router to the internet, then
the following would work(?):

Xbox 360 wired to router (router being a wireless access point or similar
device)
Media Center pc wired to router (as above)
Router (as above) connected by wireless to the broadband modem/router
(current and wireless)

Sorry Chris, just want to ensure I get this right before I buy any more
kit... and tonight I will also run a load of spare cable around and hard
wire
everything to see if it will work in principle...



"Chris H." wrote:

No, that's not it. 8-) I thought you said you already have a wireless
connection (802.11g) for the Xbox 360? If so, just eliminate the wired
connection between the PC and the Xbox 360. You don't need to continue
to
duplicate your connections.

Here's what it sounds like you should have currently, eliminating the
duplication of wired between Xbox 360 & PC:

Router --> Internet connection, wired.
Router --> Xbox 360 with wireless connection.
Router --> MCE wired to router.

The router serves to route traffic on your Local Area Network, with both
the
Xbox 360 and MCE PC as part of the same Workgroup, so they talk with each
other. I believe the default Working is MSHOME, although I would suggest
changing that to something unique to you.

Here's a really good site (with pictures, no less) on the Xbox 360 to
Media
Center Edition connection:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/extender/setup/ssviewer.mspx
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Spooky" <Spooky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi again Chris,

So... if I wish to maintain a wirless G internet connection (I have my
reasons) then I should buy a wireless G access point and have one wired
connection from the back of the access point to the pc and to another
wired
connection from the back of the access point to the xbox 360, with the
access
point connecting wirelessly to the wireless modem router for internet
access?
Then I would have a wired connection between the media center and the
extender and the wireless internet access for both - how does that
sound?
Or
is this the point at which you say "why not just get one wireless a/g
modem/router and the xbox 360 wireless adaptor....

Much appreciate your input - invaluable.

"Chris H." wrote:

Just wire the Xbox 360 connection to the router (guessing your MCE is
wired
there in the first place) and you'll be done with the "networking."
Wired
is the best, and since you'd be connecting the 360 to the router,
you'll
also have your Internet connection. Both the 360 and PC need to be on
the
same Local Area Network/Workgroup connection anyway to talk with each
other.

If you have thick walls, and don't want to run the cable, then you're
probably stuck with the wireless from the 360 to the router. But
802.11g
is
"okay" for streaming. Best is wired, of course, but sometimes
physical
limitations in a home can back you into a corner.

The problem with the setup you're trying to do is you're duplicating
the
connections, and you need to stick with a single one.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Spooky" <Spooky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Chris,

Thanks for the quick response.

The wirless router I have is g - so I did not want to try and use
that
for
the media extender set up. I was hoping to maintain a hard-wired
connection
between the 360 and the media center to maximise the ability to
stream
movies, etc.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that I cannot connect
the
xbox
360 directly to the pc via the ethernet port into the lan card? I
was
hoping
to do this in the belief that I could maximise throughput of media
to
the
extender. The idea being that I already have a perfectly good
wireless
internet connection (on a g router) and that I could simply share
that
internet connection with the xbox 360 through the ad-hoc wired
connection.
The reason for not using the xbox 360 wirless connection was
two-fold -
firstly my house has extremely thick old walls and secondly... I did
not
want
to spend more money on a network adaptor and the 360 wireless
receiver...

Sorry to drag this out, but I would appreciate some clarification
before I
revisit my setup (which did work beautifully for a short time).

"Chris H." wrote:

Sounds like you're mixing apples and oranges, Spooky. Drop off the
wired
connection directly to the PC and do the setup through your
wireless.
The
way it is you're trying to use an ad-hoc connection (wired to the
PC)
at
the
same time as having the good Internet connection.

Conversely, if you want to be wired, you need to use Internet
Connection
Sharing on the PC, hosting the Internet connection for the Xbox
360,
and
drop the wireless. Your PC will need to be on at all times you
want
to
play
on Xbox Live! with this setup, however.

Choose a single path, and stay with it. Here's a good run-down of
setting
things up: http://forums.xbox.com/1076872/ShowPost.aspx
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Spooky" <Spooky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,

I have seen many people have had similar problems and I have read
everything
I can find, tried everything advised and a few other things
besides...
here
is the problem:

System:
HP 7350 (new)
Belkin Wireless router (g)
Belkin wireless g desktop pci card
xbox 360
Devolo highspeed powerline adapters (2)
Media center 2005 Rollup 2
.Net framework 1.1 with Service Pack 1 already installed
(although I
cannot
see it listed as an update in "Add/Remove Programes" (trying to
install
service pack 1 I get told that it is already installed)

Set up:
Wireless connection for internet access
Lan connection to xbox 360 via ethernet cable from pc lan card
(intel -
standard with system) into a powerline adapter, with the xbox 360
having a
connection via ethernet cable to another powerline adapter.
Internet connection sharing enable on the wireless adapter
Media center has been set up and works on the pc.
Windows media extender has been installed.

The problem:
After much annoyance, things did work and everything was
streaming
through
the system without a glitch... once... and only once... As this
worked
I
know that my current problems are nothing to do with the wired
network
speed.

From the xbox 360 - it can get an IP and it can connect to xbox
live -
therefore I know (I think) that the xbox 360 is seeing the pc,
otherwise
it
presumably could not get itself an ip address. If I test the
connection
it
fails to find computer.

From the pc, media extender cannot see the xbox 360 on the
network.

So, they simply will not see each other on the network.

My system had Norton installed - I uninstalled this before first
running
media center extender.

I have set the windows firewall ports as suggested (1900/upnp,
3390/Remote
Media Center Experience, 3776/Media Center Extender Service,
5555/Media
Streaming, 7777/Network Validation), all required services appear
to
be
working - but this will still not work.

To make things entirely clear, the connection to the xbox 360 is
not
going
through my router - it goes out of the lan card, through the
power
supply
and
into the xbox 360 - and I have tried a direct wired connection
with
.

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