Re: MCE - Stutters on Recorded TV Playback

I've had plenty of different issues when settings this machine up with MCE.

First of all there were LOTS of problems when I changed from PATA so SATA.
A8N-SLI apparently has several issues with SATA, specifically Maxtor drives.
This meant updating the BIOS, and careful installation of Windows.
When I first encountered the stutters in MCE I tried changing the MPEG2
Decoder
and tried several different ones. Currently I'm using PowerDVD but I will try
the Nvidia one again now that I have installed the AMD X2 Driver.

The most serious SATA problems seem to be connected to NCQ Drives and can
be helped by turning off that feature in the drivers (available in the
Nvidia IDE driver
but I haven't found it in the standard windows driver, not sure if that one
even
supports NCQ?). The general opinion seems to be that Nvidia IDE-driver gives
more
troubles than it's worth in performance, I'm using the standard windows
driver.

There seems to have been issues with different versions of the Geforce driver
combined with the MPEG2 decoders, but I need to test the Nvidia decoder again
to see if that still has issues.

(I've also had problems due to my Razer Copperhead mouse. I think windows
detected it as a keyboard and dropped the PS2 attached keyboard, leaving me
with a mouse but no keyboard working, after Firmware updates of the mouse
this is working a lot better but there is still problems now and then with the
keyboard not working on cold boot, after restart it always works. And it also
always works before windows loads...)

I'm currently watching a movie I recorded yesterday, and it's run ok for
22mins
so far. So with a bit of luck my Stutter problems should now be solved.

Thanks all of you for the assistance and help! Greatly appreciated.

- Gustaf

"JW" skrev:

> Does the TV audio also stutter?
> Did you try playing the sample TV videos as Curious suggested?
> Do you only have the one SATA drive on your system?
> Do you know what the SATA drive controller chip is there have been problems
> reported when using certain Silicon Image SATA controller chips but I
> beleive the problems also showed up with recordings played Media Player.
>
> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O7neMWWGGHA.3000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > OP = original poster
> >
> > In the context of this thread, that'd be you.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> >
> > Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >
> > "tiny3d" <tiny3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:FE1667EE-C7E4-46DD-BF6C-41A2E8260407@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Hello Curious,
> >> I'll start by answering your questions:
> >> 1. There are no issues with DVD playback, I verified it an hour ago.
> >> 2. I have an Geforce 6600 with 256MB, it's a PCI-E card.
> >> 3. It's running with dual displays, Primary is 1280x1024, secondary is
> >> TV-Out running with 1024x768 (S-Video).
> >> 4. GeForce driver is 81.98, card has BIOS 5.43.02.46.00
> >> Hauppauge uses WinTV PVR PCI II driver version 2.0.30.23074
> >> Soundblaster Audigy 2 has driver version 5.12.10.1162
> >>
> >> What is the OP? Never seen that term used in this context before?
> >>
> >> - Gustaf
> >> "Curious" skrev:
> >>
> >>> If the OP is not having a problem playing recoded programs with MCE then
> >>> there is not a problem with the dual core AMD X2 driver.
> >>> I think we need to know a couple of items to help solve the problem
> >>> since
> >>> most stuttering problems with MCE that do not occur with Media Player
> >>> are
> >>> caused by graphics card problems.
> >>> 1. Is there stuttering when playing a DVD with MCE or when playing the
> >>> MCE
> >>> sample programs?
> >>> 2. How much onboard memory does his 6200 card have and is it an AGP card
> >>> or
> >>> an PCI 16E 6200 TC card?
> >>> 3. What resolution is he using over what output interface to what type
> >>> of
> >>> display?
> >>> 4. What are the actual driver release number or his "latest drivers" for
> >>> his
> >>> tuner graphics card and audio card/chip?
> >>>
> >>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:OskFfqVGGHA.3776@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > What I'm asking is, does recorded tv after the installation of the amd
> >>> > cpu
> >>> > driver result in the same stuttering as recordings made before teh
> >>> > installation of the amd cpu driver?
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> >>> >
> >>> > Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> >>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >>> >
> >>> > "tiny3d" <tiny3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> > news:2563DADF-9BDF-44C8-8D5E-13B2B8C88C2D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> Recording material has never been a problem.
> >>> >> And the material causing playback problems within MCE can be
> >>> >> played back without problems in the normal Windows MediaPlayer.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Do you mean that material recorded after the driver was installed
> >>> >> will be correctly played back even within MCE?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> - Gustaf / Tiny3d
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Jason Tsang" skrev:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> After installing the AMD Cpu driver, do subsequent recordings work
> >>> >>> ok?
> >>> >>> (I
> >>> >>> would guess yes)
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> --
> >>> >>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> >>> >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> "tiny3d" <tiny3d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>> news:5BF4FCA2-81E1-449C-8D3F-A1B82977193D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> >>> > I've been troubleshooting a MCE installation for the past couple
> >>> >>> > of
> >>> >>> > weeks.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > When the stutters were the worst they occurred both with Live-TV
> >>> >>> > and
> >>> >>> > recorded material. After trying just about anything I've now
> >>> >>> > reached a
> >>> >>> > setup with stable Live-TV but playback of dvr-ms files within MCE
> >>> >>> > still
> >>> >>> > get stutters.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Playback of dvr-ms in the Windows Media Player works without
> >>> >>> > problems.
> >>> >>> > Playback of the exact same material stutters after a few seconds
> >>> >>> > or
> >>> >>> > minutes
> >>> >>> > when played from within MCE...
> >>> >>> > Playback of non dvr-ms material plays without stutters even within
> >>> >>> > MCE.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > My Hardware setup is the following:
> >>> >>> > Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
> >>> >>> > AMD Athlon64x2
> >>> >>> > 2GB RAM
> >>> >>> > Maxtor SATA HDD
> >>> >>> > Asus Geforce 6600 card
> >>> >>> > Hauppauge PVR500MCE
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I've tried the following MPEG2 Decoders for playback:
> >>> >>> > Nvidia PureVideo Decoder (causes lots of problems)
> >>> >>> > Power DVD 6 Decoder (works better, but still playback problems)
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > (I've tried the latest BIOS updates, new drivers for all hardware
> >>> >>> > in
> >>> >>> > the
> >>> >>> > machine, old drivers for the Geforce, different MPEG2 decoders
> >>> >>> > etc.)
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I've been searching the net for weeks now for solutions.
> >>> >>> > Today I found this forum and have been searching all threads
> >>> >>> > I can find for solutions, this lead to installing the AMD X2
> >>> >>> > Driver
> >>> >>> > aswell as trying to change interlace modes for the Nvidia decoder.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Do you have any suggestions on what I can do or try to solve these
> >>> >>> > problems I have with playback within MCE?
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > - Tiny3d / Gustaf Björklund
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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