Re: MCE 2005 Xbox 360 Extender PC Setup Cannot find Xbox 360 on Ne
- From: "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:28:44 -0800
One more thing - have you ever received any balloon notifications in the
lower right corner of you screen informing you that an Xbox 360 has been
detected on your network and is ready to be configured?
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"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ofAYZvEGHA.312@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I thought you were using the F-Secure firewall and had the Windows
Firewall
> set to off?
>
> Few more things to check:
> - Run Service.msc and verify that the Windows Firewall/Internet Connection
> Sharing service is Started (not Stopped/Disabled)
> - You mentioned earlier that had you tried running with no firewall; did
you
> have F-Secure uninstalled at that point, or were you running with it wide
> open/set to disabled?
> - If you have F-Secure set to wide open and it's not working, it's
possible
> that it installed a Winsock layered service provider that's not behaving
> correctly. From a command window, run "netsh" <enter>, "winsock" <enter>,
> "show helper" <enter>, then paste the output here (in particular, I'm
> curious whether there are any DLLs that belong to F-Secure...)
>
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>
>
> "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> news:6149D366-F71C-49BA-BD58-2D63D17ED7BF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Yup UPnP Framework is ticked in the Windows Firewall Exceptions tab.
> > --
> > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > Xbox 360
> > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> >
> >
> > "Jason Tsang" wrote:
> >
> > > Also, just as a sanity check, make sure the UPnP Framework exception
in
> the
> > > Windows Firewall exception tab is enabled.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> > >
> > > Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> > >
> > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:u6V21RmEGHA.1816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > If PacketMon can see the traffic that suggests it's making it to the
> PC
> > > > NIC;
> > > > it appears to be getting lost after that.
> > > >
> > > > Couple more questions:
> > > > - What does your network look like? Specifically, what
> > > > routers/switches/wireless hardware/etc. is between your PC and Xbox
> 360?
> > > > - Have you tried rebooting the Media Center PC? (always good to
check
> :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > > news:58976B9A-AE98-4209-B4BF-C75CC8D3C285@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Yes I ran it on my Media Center 2005 PC. Both services are
running.
> > > >> If I can see the packets on PacketMon does that mean they are
getting
> to
> > > > my
> > > >> PC, or simply wizzing over the network?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm sure it's UPnP not working right...
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > >> Xbox 360
> > > >> Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Confirming - did you run PacketMon on your Media Center PC? If
so,
> > > >> > this
> > > >> > shows that the announcement traffic from the Xbox 360 is reaching
> your
> > > > PC;
> > > >> > the question is why it's not being registered. Please run
> services.msc
> > > > and
> > > >> > check the status of the SSDP Discovery Service and the Universal
> Plug
> > > > and
> > > >> > Play Device Host service (are they running?).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no
> > > > rights.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:4F3FE300-FDD9-4E42-856A-7B6CC452DA3C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > Todd,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Just thought I'd post a bit more information to go with my Log
> file
> > > > and
> > > >> > Reg
> > > >> > > dump.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I've run a PacketMon on my PC and whilst the Xbox 360 is sat on
> the
> > > > Media
> > > >> > > Center Setup Screen it seems to be sending out a set of three
UDP
> > > > packets
> > > >> > > every three seconds or so.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > They look like they are UPnP broadcast messages (they have
> ssdp:alive
> > > > in
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > packet body). I've included the header detail below.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Do you think that the UPnP Service or the SSDP Service should
be
> > > >> > responding
> > > >> > > to these? And maybe putting somethign in the registry? I'm
> guessing
> > > > as I
> > > >> > > have limited knowledge of how UPnP works.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Also, Packet mon shows no network packets comming from my PC
when
> the
> > > > Xbox
> > > >> > > 360 Setup is 'searching' for the Xbox on the network. That's
> making
> > > > me
> > > >> > think
> > > >> > > that the Setup is just looking in the MediaPeripherals registry
> key
> > > > for an
> > > >> > > entry that should have alreay been put there by somethign else.
> As
> > > >> > opposed
> > > >> > > to actually sending anything over the network at that point.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > What do you think?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > PacketMon Packet Headers...
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Protocol Source IP Source Port Dest IP
> > > >> > > Dets Port Size
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1085 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 243
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1086 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 666
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1087 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 666
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1088 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 243
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1089 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 666
> > > >> > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1090 239.255.255.250
> > > > 1900
> > > >> > > 666
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > >> > > Xbox 360
> > > >> > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > You are currently talking to someone at Microsoft on the
> Extender
> > > > team
> > > >> > :-)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > If you open regedit and navigate to
> > > >> > > >
> > > >
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MediaCenterPeripheral\DeviceTable,
> > > >> > are
> > > >> > > > there any entries under DeviceTable? (they'd look like
> > > >> > > > "00000000-0000-0000-xxxx-xxxxxxxxx" where the x's are lots of
> > > > letters
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > > > numbers). If there are no such entries, this indicates that
> the
> > > > your PC
> > > >> > > > isn't receiving any announcements from the Extender regarding
> its
> > > >> > presence
> > > >> > > > on the network. This is typically due to firewall issues,
> though I
> > > > have
> > > >> > > > seen one case in which it was due to the user's home
> router/switch
> > > >> > dropping
> > > >> > > > this traffic. A second possibility is that the MCX software
is
> not
> > > >> > running
> > > >> > > > on the PC; in such cases, I would expect to see an error in
the
> > > > install
> > > >> > log
> > > >> > > > reporting this. If when you check the registry you don't see
> any
> > > >> > devices,
> > > >> > > > please bring up Task Manager and make note of which mc*.exe
> > > > processes
> > > >> > are
> > > >> > > > running.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --
> > > >> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no
> > > >> > rights.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > >> > > > news:CF463DB8-45F2-43C7-8C5A-0E06E6C7C9C3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > Thank you very much for your replay.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Just to further clarify what I have tried so far, and how I
> have
> > > > my
> > > >> > > > firewall
> > > >> > > > > configured:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I am ruuning F-Secure internet security. I have opened ALL
> (0 -
> > > >> > 65535)
> > > >> > > > UDP
> > > >> > > > > ports on my local network (192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.149).
> I
> > > > have
> > > >> > > > checked
> > > >> > > > > the the firewall logs when running the setup program and
> nothing
> > > > is
> > > >> > being
> > > >> > > > > blocked by F-Secure. Just to be sure I have unloaded
> F-Secure
> > > > (not
> > > >> > just
> > > >> > > > > disabled the firewall, but unloaded the program from
memory)
> and
> > > > tried
> > > >> > > > again
> > > >> > > > > with no success. I have also tried running setup with just
> the
> > > >> > Windows
> > > >> > > > > firewall running. Admitedly I haven't tried completely
> > > > uninstalling
> > > >> > > > F-Secure
> > > >> > > > > from my machine as I don't really want to have to
reconfigure
> all
> > > > the
> > > >> > > > > application rules etc when I reinstall it. I'm convinced
it
> is
> > > > NOT
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > firewall blocking the setup. If you're absolutely sure
this
> is
> > > >> > > > > my
> > > >> > problem
> > > >> > > > I
> > > >> > > > > will uninstall F-Secure, but I personally don't belive this
> > > > problem is
> > > >> > > > > firewall related (despite seeing about 100 other post
saying
> > > >> > > > McAffee/Norton
> > > >> > > > > firwalls are to blame). I'm not new to computers (I've
been
> a
> > > >> > software
> > > >> > > > > developer for 12 years) and I'm sure that it is a
> configuration
> > > > issue
> > > >> > at
> > > >> > > > the
> > > >> > > > > operating system/registry level.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Is it possible to e-mail someone at microsoft on the
extender
> > > >> > > > > team
> > > > so
> > > >> > they
> > > >> > > > > can tell me exactly what the setup is doing when 'Searching
> > > >> > > > > device
> > > >> > table
> > > >> > > > for
> > > >> > > > > unaffiliated bobsleds'? Is there a device table in the
> registry
> > > > that
> > > >> > > > should
> > > >> > > > > have something in it?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I really do appreciate all adivce on this problem.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > >> > > > > Xbox 360
> > > >> > > > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Extender uses additional ports on top of what Windows
Media
> > > > Connect
> > > >> > uses
> > > >> > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > enable things like the remote UI display. Given this,
the
> fact
> > > > that
> > > >> > WMC
> > > >> > > > > > traffic gets through your firewall does not guarantee
that
>
> > > > Extender
> > > >> > > > traffic
> > > >> > > > > > will also get through. Please try getting connected
again
> > > > following
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > below steps:
> > > >> > > > > > 1) Turn on the Windows Firewall
> > > >> > > > > > 2) Temporarily uninstall any third-party firewall
software
> > > >> > > > > > (some
> > > >> > > > firewalls
> > > >> > > > > > still block traffic when set to "disabled")
> > > >> > > > > > 3) Reboot your Media Center PC
> > > >> > > > > > 4) Go through the process of adding an Extender again
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> > > >> > > > > > confers
> > > > no
> > > >> > > > rights.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in
> message
> > > >> > > > > >
news:EEB1F025-15E7-4FCA-BADD-AF087021BAE5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > > > > > > Like I said in my original post, I know my firewall
isn't
> > > > causing
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > problem
> > > >> > > > > > > as I've tried it with no firewalls running at all and
get
> the
> > > > same
> > > >> > > > > > problem.
> > > >> > > > > > > Besides I've configured my firewall correctly as I can
> get
> > > > media
> > > >> > > > connect
> > > >> > > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > > work correctly with the firewall running. I am happy
> that
> > > > this
> > > >> > > > problem is
> > > >> > > > > > > not firewall related.
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for posting though! :)
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > >> > > > > > > Xbox 360
> > > >> > > > > > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > "Chema" wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > I had a similar problem. However the problem was
Norton
> > > > Internet
> > > >> > > > > > Security. I
> > > >> > > > > > > > resolved by granting full access to my xbox360 using
> the
> > > > advance
>
>
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