Re: MCE 2005 Xbox 360 Extender PC Setup Cannot find Xbox 360 on Ne

I don't tend to leave my MCE PC on all the time so it gets booted up
regularly (including 3 or 4 times in the last hour whilst I've been pulling
my hair out!).

My network is as follows:

Windows Media Center Edition 2005 PC with shuttle Wireless G Module
Xbox 360 with Linksys Wireless G Game Adapter
Linksys Wireless Router (WRT54GS) connected to Motrola Cable Modem

I have also tried direct connection from Xbox 360 ethernet port to router
and also connecting the Xbox 360 directly to the spare network port on my PC.
In both these other setups I have got live working and Media Connect but
still can't get the Extender to install.

--
Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
Xbox 360
Linksys Wireless-G Network


"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:

> If PacketMon can see the traffic that suggests it's making it to the PC NIC;
> it appears to be getting lost after that.
>
> Couple more questions:
> - What does your network look like? Specifically, what
> routers/switches/wireless hardware/etc. is between your PC and Xbox 360?
> - Have you tried rebooting the Media Center PC? (always good to check :-)
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> news:58976B9A-AE98-4209-B4BF-C75CC8D3C285@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Yes I ran it on my Media Center 2005 PC. Both services are running.
> > If I can see the packets on PacketMon does that mean they are getting to
> my
> > PC, or simply wizzing over the network?
> >
> > I'm sure it's UPnP not working right...
> >
> > --
> > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > Xbox 360
> > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> >
> >
> > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> > > Confirming - did you run PacketMon on your Media Center PC? If so, this
> > > shows that the announcement traffic from the Xbox 360 is reaching your
> PC;
> > > the question is why it's not being registered. Please run services.msc
> and
> > > check the status of the SSDP Discovery Service and the Universal Plug
> and
> > > Play Device Host service (are they running?).
> > >
> > > --
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > news:4F3FE300-FDD9-4E42-856A-7B6CC452DA3C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Todd,
> > > >
> > > > Just thought I'd post a bit more information to go with my Log file
> and
> > > Reg
> > > > dump.
> > > >
> > > > I've run a PacketMon on my PC and whilst the Xbox 360 is sat on the
> Media
> > > > Center Setup Screen it seems to be sending out a set of three UDP
> packets
> > > > every three seconds or so.
> > > >
> > > > They look like they are UPnP broadcast messages (they have ssdp:alive
> in
> > > the
> > > > packet body). I've included the header detail below.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that the UPnP Service or the SSDP Service should be
> > > responding
> > > > to these? And maybe putting somethign in the registry? I'm guessing
> as I
> > > > have limited knowledge of how UPnP works.
> > > >
> > > > Also, Packet mon shows no network packets comming from my PC when the
> Xbox
> > > > 360 Setup is 'searching' for the Xbox on the network. That's making
> me
> > > think
> > > > that the Setup is just looking in the MediaPeripherals registry key
> for an
> > > > entry that should have alreay been put there by somethign else. As
> > > opposed
> > > > to actually sending anything over the network at that point.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > PacketMon Packet Headers...
> > > >
> > > > Protocol Source IP Source Port Dest IP
> > > > Dets Port Size
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1085 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 243
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1086 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 666
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1087 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 666
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1088 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 243
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1089 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 666
> > > > UDP 192.168.1.102 1090 239.255.255.250
> 1900
> > > > 666
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > > Xbox 360
> > > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You are currently talking to someone at Microsoft on the Extender
> team
> > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you open regedit and navigate to
> > > > >
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MediaCenterPeripheral\DeviceTable,
> > > are
> > > > > there any entries under DeviceTable? (they'd look like
> > > > > "00000000-0000-0000-xxxx-xxxxxxxxx" where the x's are lots of
> letters
> > > and
> > > > > numbers). If there are no such entries, this indicates that the
> your PC
> > > > > isn't receiving any announcements from the Extender regarding its
> > > presence
> > > > > on the network. This is typically due to firewall issues, though I
> have
> > > > > seen one case in which it was due to the user's home router/switch
> > > dropping
> > > > > this traffic. A second possibility is that the MCX software is not
> > > running
> > > > > on the PC; in such cases, I would expect to see an error in the
> install
> > > log
> > > > > reporting this. If when you check the registry you don't see any
> > > devices,
> > > > > please bring up Task Manager and make note of which mc*.exe
> processes
> > > are
> > > > > running.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > > > news:CF463DB8-45F2-43C7-8C5A-0E06E6C7C9C3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Thank you very much for your replay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just to further clarify what I have tried so far, and how I have
> my
> > > > > firewall
> > > > > > configured:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am ruuning F-Secure internet security. I have opened ALL (0 -
> > > 65535)
> > > > > UDP
> > > > > > ports on my local network (192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.149). I
> have
> > > > > checked
> > > > > > the the firewall logs when running the setup program and nothing
> is
> > > being
> > > > > > blocked by F-Secure. Just to be sure I have unloaded F-Secure
> (not
> > > just
> > > > > > disabled the firewall, but unloaded the program from memory) and
> tried
> > > > > again
> > > > > > with no success. I have also tried running setup with just the
> > > Windows
> > > > > > firewall running. Admitedly I haven't tried completely
> uninstalling
> > > > > F-Secure
> > > > > > from my machine as I don't really want to have to reconfigure all
> the
> > > > > > application rules etc when I reinstall it. I'm convinced it is
> NOT
> > > the
> > > > > > firewall blocking the setup. If you're absolutely sure this is my
> > > problem
> > > > > I
> > > > > > will uninstall F-Secure, but I personally don't belive this
> problem is
> > > > > > firewall related (despite seeing about 100 other post saying
> > > > > McAffee/Norton
> > > > > > firwalls are to blame). I'm not new to computers (I've been a
> > > software
> > > > > > developer for 12 years) and I'm sure that it is a configuration
> issue
> > > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > operating system/registry level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to e-mail someone at microsoft on the extender team
> so
> > > they
> > > > > > can tell me exactly what the setup is doing when 'Searching device
> > > table
> > > > > for
> > > > > > unaffiliated bobsleds'? Is there a device table in the registry
> that
> > > > > should
> > > > > > have something in it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I really do appreciate all adivce on this problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > > > > Xbox 360
> > > > > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Extender uses additional ports on top of what Windows Media
> Connect
> > > uses
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > enable things like the remote UI display. Given this, the fact
> that
> > > WMC
> > > > > > > traffic gets through your firewall does not guarantee that
> Extender
> > > > > traffic
> > > > > > > will also get through. Please try getting connected again
> following
> > > the
> > > > > > > below steps:
> > > > > > > 1) Turn on the Windows Firewall
> > > > > > > 2) Temporarily uninstall any third-party firewall software (some
> > > > > firewalls
> > > > > > > still block traffic when set to "disabled")
> > > > > > > 3) Reboot your Media Center PC
> > > > > > > 4) Go through the process of adding an Extender again
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no
> > > > > rights.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Code Munky" <chris.mckinleyATbigfootDOTCOM> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:EEB1F025-15E7-4FCA-BADD-AF087021BAE5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Like I said in my original post, I know my firewall isn't
> causing
> > > the
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > as I've tried it with no firewalls running at all and get the
> same
> > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > > > Besides I've configured my firewall correctly as I can get
> media
> > > > > connect
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > work correctly with the firewall running. I am happy that
> this
> > > > > problem is
> > > > > > > > not firewall related.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for posting though! :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Windows Media Center 2005 (Rollup 2)
> > > > > > > > Xbox 360
> > > > > > > > Linksys Wireless-G Network
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Chema" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I had a similar problem. However the problem was Norton
> Internet
> > > > > > > Security. I
> > > > > > > > > resolved by granting full access to my xbox360 using the
> advance
> > > > > setup
> > > > > > > in NIS
> > > > > > > > > and providing the IP address of the 360 in my router. now is
> > > > > working.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hopefully NIS will have some upgrades that will address my
> > > problem.
> > > > > In t
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > mean time that was the only way to get it to work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Code Munky" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have my Xbox 360 connected to my Windows Media Center
> 2005
> > > > > (Rollup
> > > > > > > 2) PC
> > > > > > > > > > over a Linkysys Wireless-G network. I can use Xbox Live
.

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