Re: Video Playback hangs with ATI All-In-Wonder X600Pro

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Gary (and Jason),

Thanks much for your help. I downloaded the AMD fix and it still didn't fix
my recorded video problem. However, after installing the AMD CPU fix, all
recorded and live TV from that point on did non exhibit the problem, but
previously recorded video did (go figure) .

Ulitmaetly, I think the fix to my problem was in David Fliechman's blog at:

http://blogs.msdn.com/david_fleischman/archive/2005/12/01/499046.aspx

It did not fix problems with video recorded PRIOR to installing the patch.

Again, this AMD patch did not fix problems with previously recorded video
(which I've deleted) but I've been running without a glitch with new
recorded and live TV for about 6 hours (longer than ever before) and I am[d]
very happy.

Perhaps one of you (Gary or Jason) would care to do a new new post with an
appropriate subject or message regarding "video and audio stops" or "video
and audio glitch" or something of that nature regarding the use of dual core
AMD processors that I'm sure others will having regarding this problem.
Considering David F's blog was posted on Dec 1, 2005 I'm sure that AMD dual
cores are just now becoming "bleeding edge" and I'm am sure this isn't going
to be the last time this is seen on this newsgroup.

Thanks for your help. Sometimes all it takes is someone to tell you not to
give up hope because there [usually] is a solution to all problems.

MD (Myles Duffy)


"Gary Tsang" <gtsangDELETE@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23QAWpc9DGHA.1816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> It's the likeliest reason especially if you are using a dvd codec that is
> not up to date (given that the Deccheck util is more than a year old, I
> wouldn't exactly trust it to tell what codecs have been updated to work
> best with update rollup 2).
>
> Since you do have an AMD x2 chip, make sure you have the latest AMD cpu
> driver http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/amdcpu.exe,
> and I'd recommend disabling Cool and Quiet (it has been known to cause
> issues when it kicks dual core cpu's into 'power saving' mode). You
> should also try modifying your power options so that the system is set to
> always on. Also get the latest bios from Asus for your motherboard.
>
> --
> Gary Tsang
> Microsoft MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
> http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
>
>
> "Myles Duffy" <Myles.Duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23Gvq2b8DGHA.1180@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> I'm not sure how remove just the Cyberlink / ATI decoder without removing
>> the video driver and or catalyst. I've tried to uninstall just about
>> everything I can without removing catalyst and the video driver and the
>> Cyberlink decoder still show up in deccheck..
>>
>> Is there a way to remove just a specific decoder or do I have to
>> uninstall
>> some more major component that put it there?
>>
>> By the way, I had really high hopes that the following would fix my
>> problem:
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/david_fleischman/archive/2005/12/01/499046.aspx
>>
>> unfortunately it still doesn't.
>>
>> Since Jason and Gary are both suggesting that this is a decoder problem,
>> can
>> anybody explpain why if it is a decoder problem why it would work at all?
>>
>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eiBvtlyDGHA.516@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> I'm using a x800 without problems.
>>>
>>> Did you remove the cyberlink/ati decoder completely before trying the
>> Nvidia
>>> decoder?
>>>
>>> The pairing of the NVidia decoder, with an ATI card with the latest
>> catalyst
>>> drivers definitely works, unless there is something specific with your
>> video
>>> card that causes this issue (it shouldn't in all honesty)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>
>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>
>>> "Myles Duffy" <MylesDuffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uP3TI9xDGHA.3920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >I am using the Cyberlink Video / SP Decoder (ATI) 6.0.0.1311 and
>>> >deccheck
>>> >shows that it is compatible
>>> >
>>> > I tried using the NVidia driver you recommened and the problem still
>>> > occurs.
>>> >
>>> > What's happening again is that during live or recorded tv playback,
>>> > intermittently (at least once about every few minutes) the video and
>> audio
>>> > playback just stops. If I hit the play button on my remote, the
>> progress
>>> > bar comes up and it continues to tick off time but the video doesn't
>>> > change at all and there's no sound.
>>> >
>>> > If I hit the fast forward, fast back, replay or skip buttons the video
>> and
>>> > audio will come back until the next hang.
>>> >
>>> > Could this be caused by the graphics card I am using (Graphics Card:
>>> > ATI
>>> > All in Wonder X600Pro 256MB DDR RAM)?
>>> >
>>> > Does anybody have a suggestion for a know compatible graphics card
>>> > that
>>> > might fix this problem?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > news:OvizbCmDGHA.2912@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> What DVD codec are you using?
>>> >>
>>> >> I would try removing whatever you are using now, and install a known
>>> >> working dvd codec.
>>> >> I would recommend you try the latest version of the NVidia Purevideo
>>> >> Decoder 30 day trial
>>> >>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mce/expert/bowman_dualtuners.mspx
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>> >>
>>> >> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>> >>
>>> >> "Myles Duffy" <MylesDuffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >> news:%23Wq3lrlDGHA.3884@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>> Hello,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have just completed building out a Media Center system composed of
>> the
>>> >>> following:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hardware:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Memory: 1024MB
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Processor: AMD 3800+ 2.01Ghz X2
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Graphics Card: ATI All in Wonder X600Pro 256MB DDR RAM
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Tuner Card: ATI TV WONDER ELITE TV PCI
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Software:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bios: Phoenix-Award Bios v6.00PG
>>> >>>
>>> >>> OS: XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP 2
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Direct X: DX-9 (4.09.000.0904)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> WMC: V5.1.2715.2773 (xpsp(wmbla).051011-0745) Update Rollup 2
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Disappointment:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The ATI All in Wonder X600Pro TV tuner is not recognized and is not
>>> >>> compatible with WMC as stated on the ATI website (too bad I didn't
>>> >>> see
>>> >>> this BEFORE I bough the card). Following this discovery, I purchased
>> and
>>> >>> installed the ATI TV WONDER ELITE TV PCI Tuner Card which allowed me
>> to
>>> >>> watch and record live TV.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Problem:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Video playback hangs on both Live TV and Recorded TV playback,
>> anywhere
>>> >>> from 30 seconds to 5 minutes after starting the live or recorded TV
>>> >>> playback. When this occurs the WMC Progress bar continues to count
>> time
>>> >>> while the Video and Audio has stopped playback (the TV dispay and
>> audio
>>> >>> hangs with no on screen or audio update). There are no events
>>> >>> recorded
>>> >>> in any of the Event Logs.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have enabled the VPU Recover setting on the ATI Graphics Card and
>> have
>>> >>> gotten no notifications of GPU reset recovery.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The problem that I have is that video playback does not work without
>>> >>> hanging in either Live or Recorded mode playback. All other
>>> >>> functions
>>> >>> of this system work without problems.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My suspicion is the problem lies in the graphics display card
>> (X600Pro).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Are there a known problems or a workarounds to the live TV or
>>> >>> recorded
>>> >>> TV problem with this card?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Should I throw more money at this problem by replacing the X600Pro
>>> >>> and
>>> >>> the Eilte TV Tuner Card that is fully compatible with WMC and if so,
>>> >>> what would you recommend?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Are there any diagnostics I can run on this system to determine what
>>> >>> might be causing this problem?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is there anything I can do to determine what is causing this problem
>>> >>> when it occurs?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks in Advance,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Myles Duffy
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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