Re: Xbox initiates but loses connection

Actually, I removed the old and supposedly non-compatible wired-only Linksys
switch. I know have a Netgear FR114P firewall/router connected to the cable
modem and serving as the gateway, dhcp assignor, and switch for the XBox and
Laptop in the room it's in. Downstream (in the basement actually) I
relocated the Linksys wireless WAP w/ 4 port switch such that its uplink port
is connected to one of the Netgear's ports and the other 3 ports in the
Linksys are filled with the other 3 cables that run to the other parts of my
house.

I think my big question is ... why would any of this matter? Did Microsoft
make the SW especially proprietary in some way so only "certified" network
devices will support the extender software or is MS using some unique
implementation of standard networking protocols? Again, the Xbox does
successfully affiliate with the MCE it just doesn't maintain the connection.

After several weeks, this is simply frustrating as heck. It's not like I'm
the only one with the problem. I see the 360s have had a similar program for
which there is a SW update. Is there a SW update for the regular Xbox that I
don't know about or should there be?

I just don't understand how Microsoft can design this relatively simple
capability to work in a broad spectrum of environments representative of
their large and diverse customer base.

"Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" wrote:

> have you reconfigured your network to have only one single supported
> router? as I recall you had two routers chained together and were
> using one as a switch. I can't see in this thread that you
> reconfigured.
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:00:02 -0800, ilbarbaro
> <ilbarbaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Rob,
> >
> >Any luck diagnosing the problem with all the information I sent you. I even
> >tried to see if there was some way I could download an update to the Xbox
> >Xtender software with no luck.
> >
> >"Rob Lehew [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> >> A network trace might help us debug this issue:
> >>
> >> 1) download and install
> >> http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/pmon.htm (freeware) on the
> >> Media Center PC that's experiencing the problem
> >> 2) go to the Windows desktop-->Start menu-->All
> >> Programs-->AnalogX-->PacketMon and start the "PacketMon" program
> >> 3) press the "Start" button in the upper-right corner of PacketMon
> >> 4) go through the motions on the Media Center and MCX device to reproduce
> >> the problem
> >> 6) on the Media Center PC, press the "Stop" button on PacketMon
> >> 7) go to the "File" menu of PacketMon and "Save As..." to a CSV file on your
> >> machine
> >> 8) send the CSV file to msft_mcx at hotmail
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >>
> >>
> >> "ilbarbaro" <ilbarbaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:7584C09E-9D78-408C-AEC4-9746CB693A2D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > I'm still confused. Is there some specific missing capability? Do you
> >> > know
> >> > technically what is preventing MCE Ext from working correctly? My Xbox
> >> > accesses Xbox Live without a problem. It even successfully affiliates w/
> >> > my
> >> > MCE machine. I recently purchased a Netgear FR 114P Firewall/Router which
> >> > I
> >> > intended to swap out with the BEF. Will that work? Where can I find a
> >> > list
> >> > of compatible network devices?
> >> >
> >> > And lest I forget, thank you for all your help!
> >> >
> >> > "Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> It's time to upgrade your Linksys gear. As I recall the BEFW11S4 has
> >> >> an uplink port to uplink a switch TO it. It wasn't desgined to be a
> >> >> switch itself. (and by the way, the WAN port on this is only 10 megs
> >> >> half duplex). the BEFW11S4 V2 is listed as NOT compatible with Xbox
> >> >> Live BTW even if you were to run it as a router.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:19:02 -0800, ilbarbaro
> >> >> <ilbarbaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Barb,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sorry for the delay. I just haven't had time to focus on this
> >> >> >frustrating
> >> >> >ordeal.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I have a Linksys BEFSR41 ver 2 Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4 port
> >> >> >switch
> >> >> >connected to my Comast Cable modem. I have no public static IPs on the
> >> >> >inside. My MCE system is wired directly to this router/switch.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In another room, I have a Linksys BEFW11S4 v2 WAP w/ 4 port switch which
> >> >> >is
> >> >> >connected to the BEFSR41 via the uplink port to make everything appear
> >> >> >as on
> >> >> >the same logical DHCPed subnet of 192.168.1.100-103. The Xbox (and a
> >> >> >laptop)
> >> >> >are wired directly to this switch.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Since the last time I posted, I uninstalled McAfee Desktop Firewall ver
> >> >> >8.5
> >> >> >from my MCE machine and reinstalled my extender software on my Xbox and
> >> >> >on my
> >> >> >MCE. Everything seems to install fine until I try to get the Xbox to
> >> >> >communicate with my MCE then I run into the same old problem where the
> >> >> >Xbox
> >> >> >says it lost the connection. In my Event Viewer under Application
> >> >> >events, it
> >> >> >still detects a succesful affilitation, yet it doesn't work.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I don't know if this helps, but I can ping the laptop connected to the
> >> >> >BEFW11S4, but when I try to ping the Xbox (which is connected to the
> >> >> >same
> >> >> >BEFW11S4), the ping times out.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Is there anything I can do? What could possibly be causing this? This
> >> >> >is
> >> >> >truly driving me nuts since this functionality is why I spent so much
> >> >> >money
> >> >> >on my MCE system and it actually seemed to work initially.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> which router and do you have the current firmware?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:46:03 -0800, Ilbarbaro
> >> >> >> <Ilbarbaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I am behind a linksys router.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> you mention a switch. do you have public IPs for all your computers
> >> >> >> >> from your ISP or are you behind a router (NAT)?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:53:03 -0800, Ilbarbaro
> >> >> >> >> <Ilbarbaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >One more thing ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >From my MCE machine, I can ping my switch, my provider's DNS and
> >> >> >> >> >Gateway
> >> >> >> >> >machines, and even another laptop that's on the same local subnet,
> >> >> >> >> >but I
> >> >> >> >> >can't seem to ping my Xbox, even though I swear I could before.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Additionally, the Xbox gets a valid IP via DHCP and connects to
> >> >> >> >> >Xbox Live
> >> >> >> >> >just fine.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >AAAAAAARGH!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >"Ilbarbaro" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I'm trying to get my Xbox to connect to my HP Pavilion m7160n
> >> >> >> >> >> MCE system.
> >> >> >> >> >> When I first set it up a few days ago, it seemed to work ok.
> >> >> >> >> >> Now, it seems
> >> >> >> >> >> to affilliate successfully then the connection "unexpectedly"
> >> >> >> >> >> fails.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> MC, Security and System logs say nothing.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Application logs states "AffConfirm RQ - Device
> >> >> >> >> >> {00000000-0000-0000-0000-0050F2532E6A} - Successfully
> >> >> >> >> >> affiliated" of type
> >> >> >> >> >> Information, but then has a follow on Warning entry related to
> >> >> >> >> >> source "Media
> >> >> >> >> >> Center Extender Services" that states: "VirusScan Enterprise:
> >> >> >> >> >> Blocked by
> >> >> >> >> >> behaviour blocking rule '_'.(from MCPASSPC IP 192.168.1.102 user
> >> >> >> >> >> SYSTEM
> >> >> >> >> >> running VirusScan Enter 8.0 OAS)"
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I looked through both the settings of my McAfee Virusscan and
> >> >> >> >> >> Desktop
> >> >> >> >> >> Firewall settings and can't figure out what setting or so called
> >> >> >> >> >> "behavior
> >> >> >> >> >> blocking rule" is blocking it or how to set up an exclusion.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I disabled the Desktop Firewall and I still had the problem, so
> >> >> >> >> >> it must be a
> >> >> >> >> >> Virusscan behavior blocking rule as it suggests. In VS, I have
> >> >> >> >> >> several
> >> >> >> >> >> "Prevent ... Remote Creation, Modification, Access to Suspicious
> >> >> >> >> >> Startups,
> >> >> >> >> >> and Launching from the Temp Folder. I then disabled on access
> >> >> >> >> >> scanning and
> >> >> >> >> >> the blocking rules and I still have the problem.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Additionally, the last 2 or 3 attempts show the successful
> >> >> >> >> >> "affiliation" log
> >> >> >> >> >> but no Warning log of the behavior blocking rule.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Anybody know exactly what applications/services and related
> >> >> >> >> >> ports I should
> >> >> >> >> >> allow to avoid this problem. In no way do I want to simply turn
> >> >> >> >> >> off my
> >> >> >> >> >> security apps, especially since I do Xbox live from time to
> >> >> >> >> >> time.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Barb Bowman
> >> >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
> >> >> >> >> Expert Zone Columnist
> >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> >> >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Barb Bowman
> >> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
> >> >> >> Expert Zone Columnist
> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> >> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Barb Bowman
> >> >> MS Windows-MVP
> >> >> Expert Zone Columnist
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> >> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>
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