Re: Is onboard vidoe generally good enough?
- From: "DonR" <DonR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:37:33 -0800
Yeah, I forgot about that... CBS at 1080i is 95% ABC is about 80%
utilization when watching via MCE. I guess that MCE is a hog because
watching CBS using the Fusion software shows about 50% utilization, ABC
through Fusion is about 25%.
I believe the fusion software uses it's own decoder... so now I'm wondering
why it's so high using the Nvidia decoder under MCE?
Am I wrong in assuming that moving from the onboard 915 to the 6600GT should
result in a significant reduction CPU usage???
"JW" wrote:
> Your CPU utilization should be less when watching ABC or FOX since they
> broadcast in 720p instead of 1080i.
> When watching a 1080i program with the 6600GT should show reduced CPU
> utilization since it has de-interlacing support in addition to decoding
> support.
> Since CPU utilization is highly dependent on CPU power/speed I do not know
> what changes you will see when watchhing a 720p program with the 6600GT card
> if any.
>
> "DonR" <DonR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:BB55A0DA-9037-4A45-BF9A-6C32874A6568@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Just ran a quick test (which is still using onboard Intel 915g) cpu
> > utilization is between 70-80% when watching HDTV content I am using
> > Nvidia
> > decoder and hardware accelleration is checked.
> >
> > I am curious as to typical cpu utilization using 6600gt? I googled it but
> > didn't find a post as to what kinda of numbers I could expect.
> >
> > "JW" wrote:
> >
> >> I am still surprised at your current CPU utilization. What DVD Decoder
> >> are
> >> you using and does it have Hardware Acceleration enabled.?
> >>
> >> "DonR" <DonR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:CFE96779-796C-473B-8431-C70F2AE8AE63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Thanks for the info. After a little more research I found that
> >> >
> >> > 1) The fan on the 6600gt's usually isn't an issue over the processor
> >> > fan
> >> > (unless you have some expensive silent cooling system, which I don't)
> >> >
> >> > 2) one little side note for those that might want component out... only
> >> > a
> >> > few of the manufacturers of 6600GT cards have that feature enabled,
> >> > Gigabyte
> >> > and Chaintech to be a few. The first card I was looking at, by XFX
> >> > does
> >> > not.
> >> >
> >> > I ended up picking up the Gigabyte PCIe 6600gt due to good
> >> > compatibility
> >> > and
> >> > stability reviews.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again.
> >> >
> >> > "JW" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Don't go to a 6600 card unlesss it has DDR2 memory at 350MHz for an
> >> >> effective memory speed of 700MHz or you may have trouble processing
> >> >> 1080i
> >> >> HD
> >> >> input wtihout droppoing frames or stuttering. A 128MB 6600GT costs
> >> >> about
> >> >> the same as the top memory speed plain 6600 and has much faster system
> >> >> clock
> >> >> and a standard DDR2 memory speed of 500 Mhz.
> >> >>
> >> >> "DonR" <DonR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:63590541-54BA-4DD4-A4DD-AEC4700577B9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >I have a 915 onboard, and it's fine for regular watching regular
> >> >> >programming.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When I run into trouble in HDTV, (I'm assuming because of MPEG
> >> >> > decoding)
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > drives my processor use up to near 90% while viewing. It plays fine
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > moving around in the MCE gui is sluggish. Taping HDTV is fine +/-
> >> >> > 10%
> >> >> > processor use.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm going to upgrade to a GeForce 6600 series video card with
> >> >> > hardware
> >> >> > mpeg
> >> >> > which should take some load off the processor when watching HDTV.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Montysl" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The Aopen i915Gm-HFS has both component and DVI output on the board
> >> >> >> (nice!)...I was just wondering if, in practice, the onboard
> >> >> >> solution
> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> been "good enough" for people attempting to use it.
> >> >> >> "Curious" <curious@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:OgMqa8v7FHA.3984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > Since Intel has been working very closely with MS on future MCE
> >> >> >> > systems
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > believe that the 915 chip with 128MB of memory available has the
> >> >> >> > 10GB/sec
> >> >> >> > of memory bandwidth which is enough for 1080i HD video programs
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > HD tuner card and the card is certainly adequate for 720p
> >> >> >> > programs
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > HD tuner and is absolutely no problem outputting HD resolutions
> >> >> >> > from
> >> >> >> > other
> >> >> >> > sources.
> >> >> >> > If you don't want to use a VGA connection to your display you can
> >> >> >> > buy
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > Intel ADD2 PCI card for $25-$35 which has a DVI interface for the
> >> >> >> > 915
> >> >> >> > chip
> >> >> >> > set.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Techdango" <Techdango@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> > news:2A303954-C834-44E3-B184-57F3173DA447@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Since you mentioned that you are using on-board, I am assuming
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> is a
> >> >> >> >> VGA
> >> >> >> >> port. VGA ports are analog signals that will degrade the
> >> >> >> >> quality a
> >> >> >> >> little.
> >> >> >> >> Your best bet is for using DVI or some other digital signal.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Montysl" wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> I have the Pentium M based Aopen board that uses the 915chipset
> >> >> >> >>> with
> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >>> GMA900 video subsystem. The composite and other outputs are all
> >> >> >> >>> there
> >> >> >> >>> but I
> >> >> >> >>> read very conflicting reports as to whether this level will
> >> >> >> >>> give
> >> >> >> >>> satisfactory results at HD resolutions (780p+). Does anyone
> >> >> >> >>> have
> >> >> >> >>> experience
> >> >> >> >>> with this or similar onboard systems?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Thanks in advance.....
> >> >> >> >>>
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