RE: Live TV Freezes Media Center
- From: Dennis <Dennis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:35:02 -0800
I am back --- I have some success to report but first thanks are in order
I have been working with PNY and Hauppauge technical support, both
separately, off and on for the last few weeks in my spare moments. I
contacted PNY first because the combined news group opinion appeared to be
more toward video cards and drivers and then I contacted Hauppauge the tuner
card manifacture. The problem does not seem to be with either company at the
moment (the probable fix is coming) and I would like to thank both for their
quality easy to work with support. Never once did either company try to
dodge the question with the old saying “it’s not my problem - look over
there” as many other companies might have tried or attempted to give you an
almost impossible task to do, just to get rid of you for a while. Each
manufacture worked diligently with me to clear their product, both offering
to send me RMA replacement products and a Hauppauge card is on it way right
now but it appears not to be the problem either. I did purchase and try a
second different video card, a PNY Verto GeFORCE 6200 128 MB before
re-contacting Hauppauge as PNY offered to RMA the first video card just to
make sure it was not their card. Again both companies support was just a
phone call away, no delayed e-mail messaging like ATI does nor out of the
country foreign type support. Just real live, quality, USA support. Support
of this quality will definitely guide my next purchase and maybe yours to one
of their well supported products.
I just purchased a new mother board (ECS ELITEGROUP nFORCE3-A K8HT1600
nForce 250), processor (AMD Sempron 2800+ Socket 754), new ram too because
the old is not compatible with the new mother board, a new SATA Hard Drive
and unpacked a new ($15 after rebate) cheap tower case with 450 watt power
supply. One of those tower case deals you can’t afford to pass by but
probably should have. :) :) I know it’s probably not a high quality power
supply, I won’t forget to try and reuse the original higher quality Enermax
power supply if there are problems. I reused the original Hauppauge
WinTV-PVR-500 dual tuner card and the origonal PNY Vetro GeFORCE FX 5700 VE
video card. Loaded Windows XP Media Center software and the ECS set up disk.
I updated the PNY video card to Nvidia’s version 77.79 driver for Windows XP
Media Center. (Note many seem to think the 66.93 version driver is the most
stable and I will try it later if there are problems) I then installed the
most current Hauppauge tuner driver version 2.0.35.23258 dated 9-15-2005
found on their site as file name “mce_cd_29.zip”. I installed Nvidia’s video
encoder “NVIDIA_PureVideo_Decoder_Trial_1.02-185.exe” I did not allow
Windows XP Media Center to update at all, thinking I will allow it to update
later.
Guess what --- it’s working OK, well in at about 4 hour segments before
failing so far. Live TV has run about 12 hours so far, noting three freezes
at about 4 hour intervals but this time their not absolutely hard freezes, a
Ctrl-Alt-Del will bring up Windows Task Manager. I am going to start adding
the Windows updates and see what happens but at the moment it looks like the
ABIT KV7 mother board with its AMD 2600 Athlon XP processor may have been
the problem. Even though I did not reuse the old memory I don’t think it was
the problem because I used two 512 MB chips, one each at a time and both
together, all resulting in the same type failure. More testing with the new
setup should tell more but I thought if anyone is still monitoring this
newsgroup trouble they might like to know what’s happening.
Thanks for everyone’s input and I will publish more as I test further,
suggestions are always appreciated.
Dennis
"Dennis" wrote:
> Hello Moose
>
> Thanks for the input, I have been asleep at the wheel after a few days of no
> additional posts and had not noticed all the activity.
>
> I just noticed when I went to find your suggested driver, NVIDIA has a new
> Windows Media Center driver dated November 14 2005 (version 81.94) and I
> decided to test it first – It worked for over 20 minutes, I was impress while
> I watched but I found the system frozen about 2 hours later when I returned
> to check on its progress. Easily found a 66.81 driver (not the one you
> suggested) on the NVIDIA site, tested it and it fails too. Just loaded your
> suggested driver 66.93 as I had a little trouble finding it. Finally had to
> do a search on the NVIDIA site for “66.93 driver” and there it was, I am not
> sure how you find it with out doing a search --- noted for anyone else
> looking. The system has frozen once after just a few minutes, restarted the
> system a second time and it froze in about 15 minutes.
>
>
> Again when I find the fix I will post it, even if it’s as simple as check
> the power cord. :) :)
>
> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, they are all appreciated
>
> Dennis
>
>
> "}Moose" wrote:
>
> > Hi Dennis,
> >
> > I have had the same problem with FX5xxx cards and it is the driver. The
> > latest Forceware drivers are broken with MCE2005 on these cards. You need to
> > download the 66.93 drivers which work a treat. You can get them from Nvidia's
> > driver archive.
> >
> > Once I installed these drivers I have never had any problems withe either a
> > 5200 or a 5700 ultra. Hope this works for you.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > PS - sorry about the empty post before!
> >
> > "Dennis" wrote:
> >
> > > Windows XP Media Center 2005
> > > NVIDA DVD Decoder
> > >
> > > Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 500 dual tuner
> > > PNY NVIDA Vetro Geforce FX 5700 VE video card
> > > ABIT KV7 mother board with onboard sound
> > > 1 GB of memory
> > > AMD 2600 Athlon Processor
> > >
> > > When I start Live TV it will run from a few seconds to a few minutes with a
> > > one time maximum run of about 30 minutes and then everything freezes.
> > > Nothing responds on the computer and it must be powered down and restarted.
> > > The FM radio function will run for less than 30 minutes too and then the
> > > system freezes. Using the DVD movie play back function played back an entire
> > > movie OK. I have all the latest drivers and software updates installed as of
> > > November 4, 2005 including NVIDA DVD Decoder, TV tuner driver, video card
> > > driver, mother board BIOS, Windows XP and Media Center updates.
> > >
> > > Any help on which way to look would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Dennis
> > >
.
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