Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- From: Jemima <Jemima@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:55:03 -0700
OK--I did the hack. It worked. We will be more prepared when my son's
computer, which just shipped today, comes in. Thanks all. Sorry to be a
problem.
"leadfoot" wrote:
>
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OiHOBqhnFHA.3256@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> If you need to join a domain, do a clean installation of MCE 2005. You can
> join a domain during the initial installation and setup. Just not
> afterwards.
>
> I can't answer the question on an MCE 2005 key working on a 2004 reinstall.
> If you have a legitimate copy of MCE 2004, you can use the key for that if
> you need to reinstall.
>
> And, as before, there is a hack out there (Google for it) that will
> allegedly restore the domain joining functionality. I personally haven't
> tried this hack, as I don't run a domain, and have no need for it.
>
>
> Joining a domain within' Media Center 2005
> IMPORTANT NOTE: Tekmaven brings up a valid point -- Those that join a domain
> with Media Center 2005 will *not* be able to use extender devices due to the
> Fast User Switching dependency (who uses extenders anyway?)
> UPDATE (January 8th): I have received news the Linksys MCE Extender device
> works fine when joined in a domain.
>
> 1.. Insert Windows XP CD.
> 2.. Start > Run > X:\i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons
> (replace X: with the appropiate drive letter)
> 3.. Acknowledge prompt by clicking 'Yes'.
> 4.. Skip updating process by clicking 'Cancel' or by pressing 'Esc'
> 5.. After installation, acknowledge success msg. by clicking 'Ok'
> 6.. Start > Shutdown > Restart
> 7.. At boot menu, select 'Microsoft Windows Recovery Console'
> 8.. Select proper installation to log onto (default: 1) and press 'Enter'
> (If prompted, enter Administrator password and press 'Enter')
> 9.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'cd system32\config'
> 10.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'copy SYSTEM C:\'
> 11.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: exit
> 12.. At boot menu, select 'Windows XP Media Center Edition'
> 13.. Log into Windows and play a game of minesweeper (very important)
> 14.. Start > Run > Type: 'regedit' and press enter
> 15.. Click on 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE'.
> 16.. File > Load Hive...
> 17.. Browse and select C:\SYSTEM
> 18.. Specify key name 'BANANA' and click OK
> 19.. Expand: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > BANANA > WPA > MedCtrUpg
> 20.. On the right-hand side, double-click IsLegacyMCE value
> 21.. Change selected value to 1 and click Ok. (THAT IS NOT AN L!)
> 22.. Click on BANANA subkey (under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE).
> 23.. File > Unload Hive. Confirm.
> 24.. Start > Shutdown > Restart
> 25.. At boot menu, select 'Microsoft Windows Recovery Console'
> 26.. Take sip of Dr. Pepper (very important)
> 27.. Select proper installation to log onto (default: 1) and press 'Enter'
> (If prompted, enter Administrator password and press 'Enter')
> 28.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'cd \'
> 29.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'copy SYSTEM
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM'
> (Yes, you want to overwrite - Go ahead and do it)
> 30.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'del SYSTEM'
> 31.. Type (without quotes) and press enter: 'exit'
> 32.. At boot menu, select 'Windows XP Media Center Edition'
> 33.. Take a piss while you wait.
> 34.. Join domain. What, you were expecting instructions on this too?
> (Pfft!)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
> --------------------------------
> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> --------------------------------
> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
>
> "ieden" <ieden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:115AC8C5-9130-41F5-A448-343AF96FB630@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >I will direct you to the Q&A section of the document you referenced .
> >Please
> > read the following and tell me:
> >
> > Q. Can I use the Media Center PC for my computing needs?
> > A. Yes. A computer running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 delivers
> > the
> > full power and functionality of Windows XP. Windows XP Media Center
> > Edition
> > 2005 is the best version of Windows for the home. In addition to enjoying
> > the
> > rich digital media and gaming experiences it offers, you can use a Media
> > Center PC to surf the Internet, send and receive e-mail messages or
> > Instant
> > Messaging, run spreadsheets, create documents and presentations, and a lot
> > more.
> >
> > What is "the full power and functionality of Windows XP"? How can I send
> > email using my Exchange Server 2003 and Outlook 2003? if I can't log into
> > Windows Media Center with my DOMAIN account?
> >
> > Again in the same Q&A you provided, #9 of General, tell me just who holds
> > the key to the administrative capabilities regarding encryption? What good
> > is
> > encryption if everyone is an administrator on the workstation? You can't
> > limit users funtionality and still let them use applications like ummmm,
> > OFFICE!
> >
> > Why would MS bury that tiny morsal of information in the general section?
> > No
> > self respecting tech reads the general section...
> >
> > Ultimately your saying that if I want to join a domain with MCE2K5 I need
> > to
> > suck it up and purchase a license for 2004 and upgrade to 2005??? Will the
> > 2005 oem keycode work with a fdisk reload of 2004?
> >
> > These are important questions and I think people deserves answers.
> >
> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> The company you purchased the computer from is the one you should be
> >> complaining to. Microsoft made this information public.
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/evaluation/faq.mspx
> >>
> >> Scroll down to General Information, 9th question:
> >>
> >> Q. Can I connect a new PC running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 to
> >> a work network or domain?
> >>
> >> A. While you can access network resources on a work network or a domain,
> >> you cannot join a Windows XP Media Center 2005 PC to the domain. PCs
> >> running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 are designed specifically
> >> for home use. Professional features, specifically Domain Join and Cached
> >> Credentials (Credentials Manager for logins) are not included. As a
> >> result, you will be prompted for your login username/password to access
> >> network resources after a reboot or logging back into the PC. In
> >> addition, file shares or network resources set to require a domain-joined
> >> PC for access will not be available. Remote Desktop and Encrypting File
> >> System support are still included.
> >>
> >> You new computer should have an instruction manual, or possibly and
> >> included help file that will tell you how to access the recovery
> >> partition, recovery CD/DVD set, and restore the computer to its "out of
> >> the box" condition.
> >>
> >> Additionally, there are purported hacks out there that supposedly allow
> >> you to re-enable this capability.
> >>
> >> The primary reason for not allowing joining to a domain was the
> >> introduction of the Media Center Extenders. Since they rely on the Fast
> >> User Switching portion of Windows XP. In a domain environment, Fast
> >> User Switching is disabled. If they allowed joining a domain, then
> >> people who didn't do their homework on the Extender devices would
> >> complain because it would only work when no one was logged into the host
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> >> Display\Security
> >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> >> http://www.dougknox.com
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
> >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
> >> --------------------------------
> >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
> >>
> >> "Jemima" <Jemima@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:BE6DCC6E-ADA5-4E6C-A3F2-F3AB35E3E683@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >I just purchased a brand new computer with MCE 2005 and NEED to join my
> >> > domain because that is where all my files, and my children's
> >> > homeschooled
> >> > programs, etc. are located. It is imperative. Last I had checked into
> >> > it,
> >> > there was no problem with MCE and domain log in.
> >> >
> >> > Now, I am stuck with a computer that does not have this ability as my
> >> > new
> >> > school year is coming to a start and I need this capability. WHY on
> >> > earth
> >> > would microsoft disable this?
> >> >
> >> > I don't have a clue how to go about reloading the software to have a
> >> > the
> >> > chance to change this during setup. Surely microsoft realizes that
> >> > these
> >> > computers come with the os already installed and they are making what
> >> > should
> >> > be a pleasant occasion filled with misery because the darn computer is
> >> > rendered useless for what we need it for.
> >> >
> >> > WARN your customers about what your programs NO LONGER do because they
> >> > may
> >> > believe they will be getting a functioning computer.
> >> >
> >> > This is a joke and I am furious.
> >>
>
>
>
.
- References:
- Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOMAIN
- From: Jemima
- Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOMAIN
- From: Doug Knox MS-MVP
- Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- From: ieden
- Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- From: Doug Knox MS-MVP
- Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- From: leadfoot
- Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOMAIN
- Prev by Date: Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- Next by Date: Re: watching tv
- Previous by thread: Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- Next by thread: Re: Feel Duped by Microsoft with MCE NOT being allowed to join DOM
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|
