Re: Best DVD Decoder From MCE/ATI 9800pro - Prove It!

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Here is an interesting question for all of you ATI Catalyst 5.6 release
experts out there. Since 5.6 is a GA release as of the 8th (it's final build
was the in the morning of 7th, and packaged then), and the 5.5 Catalyst
package has been released since it final packaging on May 15th. How is it
that some of you have such extraordinory knowledge of it's stabilty and
usibility. Yet I am on the ATI developer network have access to all the
nightly builds (in between builds if I want them), and yet all the
non-developers know everything there is to know about the stability and
usability of the LATEST drivers that were literally a day a half old as a
final release when I was told to use them by a general user. I have the test
packages running on machines with no issues as well as about 400+ packages of
previous builds, would you like to test all of them to verify their stability
and let all of know so we can benefit from this.

JonP

"Chris Lanier" wrote:

> ....or you had a configuration issue (or an issue with Catalyst 5.5).
> Install 5.6 and I bet you will have better luck. =)
>
> --
> Chris Lanier
> http://www.msmvps.com/chrisl/
> http://www.thegreenbutton.com/
>
> "Neil Sprangers" <neil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O9hklvSbFHA.3712@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >I don't know if the Nvidia decoder is SUPPOSED to be compatible with ATI
> >cards or not, but I can say from experience on 3 different machines it
> >does'nt always work. I was having a problem with it last week, I asked
> >about it in this forum, and others replied that they were having the same
> >problem. You can search for the thread if you wish. I still have the
> >screen shot up: http://www.ritewaytechnology.com/images/screenshot.JPG
> >
> > I believe I was using catalyst 5.5 and nvidia 1.00.67
> >
> > TV worked fine, but not DVDs. Cyberlink decoder fixed the problem.
> >
> > So, no, the nvidia decoder isn't 100% compatible with ATI cards, whether
> > it's supposed to be or not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jimbo" <sdhi@please dont spam me.rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:e2mAgSKbFHA.3400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> OK JonP - I think we have a huge misunderstanding here. so let me be
> >> clear:
> >>
> >> I am telling you directly that I am using the Nvidia DVD Decoder, MCE
> >> 2005, and 2 different ATI cards on 2 separate machines.
> >>
> >> I am telling you directly that I am watching TV and DVD's on both boxes
> >> flawlessly. (Right now in fact) I am also telling you that so are MANY
> >> other people with the same results.
> >>
> >> And, I BUILT both of these systems from the ground up - and the NVIDIA
> >> decoder is the ONLY one installed (except for the MCE supplied Sonic one)
> >>
> >> I too have read your "NVIDIA DVD Decoder System Requirements" which as
> >> you say, CLEARLY states:
> >>
> >> "DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) compatible graphics processor
> >> supports, such as..." My ATI cards CLEARLY fall into this category.
> >> Now JonP, you don't REALLY think NVIDIA is going to put the letters "ATI"
> >> on that list do you?
> >>
> >> Finally, if you follow this link:
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/partners/dfw/partnerlisting.mspx
> >>
> >> You will see this:
> >>
> >> DVD decoders
> >>
> >> . NVIDIA DVD Decoder
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Also, I have run DECCHECK and voila! The Nvidia Decoder shows as golden.
> >>
> >> So, I think you might be a bit confused.
> >>
> >> And, also, I think speaking to Dana Cline in such a manner was
> >> inappropriate. Dana helps folks out here daily and deserves a little
> >> appreciation and certainly some respect. A quick search of your name only
> >> shows a couple of entries in this thread.
> >>
> >> JS
> >>
> >>
> >> "JonP" <JonP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:F1A4423C-E022-4613-A726-10660EBBA517@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Well Jimbo I am very impressed I am very sure that all the developers at
> >>> WinHEC and at Nivida would like to know how you achived such a hardware
> >>> compatibility leap here I quickly suggest that you re-read my posting
> >>> and
> >>> follow the procedure and oddly enough, you will find that first Nvidia
> >>> decoders are NOT compatible with ATI hardware.
> >>>
> >>> Check Microsoft hardware compatibility list for Nvidia and Microsoft
> >>> certified hardware for Windows Media Center Edition 2005 which oddly
> >>> enough
> >>> again is the same list for compatibility for the NVidia DVD Media
> >>> Decoder the
> >>> site is (this is a active link to an excel spread*** - be prepared!)
> >>>
> >>> http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/MCEReadinessCenter/MCE_Approved_Components_for_MOSB.xls
> >>>
> >>> On this matter, what the heck, don't believe me, go to the source check
> >>> Nvidia at
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder_sysreqs.html
> >>>
> >>> Nvidia CLEARLY states for
> >>>
> >>> *******************
> >>> NVIDIA DVD Decoder System Requirements
> >>>
> >>> Windows XP Media Center Edition, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP
> >>> Home
> >>> Edition
> >>> DirectX 9.0 or higher
> >>> Windows Media Center or Windows Media® Player 9.0 or higher for DVD
> >>> Playback
> >>> DirectShow compatible software for MPEG-2 file playback
> >>> DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) compatible graphics processor
> >>> supports,
> >>> such as NVIDIA GeForce4T series, GeForce FX series, or GeForce 6 series.
> >>> DVD-ROM drive required for DVD viewing
> >>> Graphics Chips Supported
> >>> All Microsoft DirectX® 8.x compatible chips, including:
> >>> NVIDIA GeForce 6 series
> >>> NVIDIA GeForce FX series
> >>> NVIDIA GeForce4 series
> >>> NVIDIA GeForce 3 series
> >>> NVIDIA Quadro FX series
> >>> NVIDIA Quadro4 series
> >>> NVIDIA Quadro DCC series
> >>> Audio Chips Supported
> >>> NVIDIA nForce Audio
> >>> Creative Labs® Ensoniq Audio PCI
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 PCI
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 +WavEffects
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster 512 3D Audio PCI
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy X-Gamer
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 MP3+
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Platinum
> >>> Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 X-Gamer
> >>> Philips® Rhythmic Edge PCI
> >>> Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
> >>> SIIG® Soundwave Pro PCI 32-bit
> >>> *********************
> >>>
> >>> Once again, just take a look at Windows XP Video Decoder Checkup which
> >>> you
> >>> can check out at
> >>>
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/portablemediacenter/decoder.mspx
> >>>
> >>> If you even attempt to use the Nvidia decoder as your working decoder,
> >>> you
> >>> will get a message similar to this:
> >>>
> >>> "This decoder is not compatible with synchronization feature of windows
> >>> media player 10. Setting it as yur preferred decoder might cause
> >>> undesirable
> >>> results."
> >>>
> >>> Now if you check you WinMSD, debug symbols load, your event viewer,
> >>> and/or
> >>> MSConfig you will find that the NVidia driver doesn't even load.
> >>>
> >>> If you belive the Nvidia decoder is working, I am afraid you are greatly
> >>> mistaken. I can send you MPEG debug utilities or links to verify this.
> >>>
> >>> Can you show me otherwise, I would very much like to see validated
> >>> evidence
> >>> to positively show otherwise. It would be interesting to see how yours
> >>> are
> >>> working with this decoder, put up you winmsd file to show you decoder
> >>> being
> >>> used with version information, it will also of course show the ATI 9800
> >>> version as well.
> >>>
> >>> I will note for your information that I beta testing Windows Media
> >>> Center
> >>> 2005 on
> >>> a Dell 8200 with Dual ATI N-Vidia Blackfire cards and a ATI 9800A ll In
> >>> Wonder and the NVidia Decoder was not and still is not compatible with
> >>> the
> >>> Nvidia DVD decoder. I still have all my hardware beta reports for
> >>> Microsoft.
> >>>
> >>> JonP
> >>>
> >>> "Francesco" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I installed MCE2005 on a Dell XPS2 w/ an ATI 9800 pro and have had
> >>>> problems
> >>>> with DVD playback. The bundled decoder is only 'partialy' compatable
> >>>> with MCE
> >>>> and i want to buy a new one. Anyone know a software decoder that works
> >>>> well
> >>>> with ATI 9800pro and MCE2005.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Francesco
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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>
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