Re: Extender: sharing specific folders under my documents

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Backing up a couple posts... Pat's correct regarding Media Center and
Windows Media Player sharing the same music database. One caveat though -
the music database is per user, so changes to the music database of your
primary user will not impact your MCX (and vice versa)

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"P-Chip" <PChip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jim,
>
> You're welcome!
>
> On my machine, MCX1 is pretty much god (or Power User). I haven't
restricted
> it in any way since I set up the software. I just make sure my kids know
not
> to delete anything from anywhere on XBox.
>
> But I'm starting to think that giving read-only permissions makes sense.
> Actually, all other users on my PC have read-only permissions on all the
> media folders, so I'm thinking MCX1 should be no exception.
>
> -- Pat
>
> "jhorn" wrote:
>
> > Pat,
> >
> > First I have to say I really appreciate your and Todd's help.
> >
> > I don't remember if I looked in WMP 10. But that makes sense, I"ll look
> > there tonight and/or have WMP10 re-scan for new media and see if
everything
> > shows up on the extender. I get the feeling the process can just take
> > awhile, as you say, for files to be recognized by the pc and extender.
> >
> > BTW do you allow file deletion from the extender?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > jim
> >
> > "P-Chip" wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > The reason you don't see the deleted-then-restored files on your Media
> > > Center has something to do with Windows Media Player 10's internal
media
> > > database. When you delete a file from within the MCX (or from your MCE
PC's
> > > interface), you are deleting the file from the database.
> > >
> > > However, adding the file back to the file system in your shared
folders does
> > > not necessarily add it back to WMP 10's database. This is the reason
you
> > > don't see the restored album in the MCX. Normally, files added this
way show
> > > up after a little while on your WMP 10 (since it monitors certain
folders).
> > > But I don't know how is that communicated to the MCE app. As far as I
know,
> > > the MCE app and WMP 10 share the media database, but I could be wrong.
Maybe
> > > Todd can answer this better.
> > >
> > > Can you see the album in your WMP 10? If not, try adding that there
from
> > > your PC. I am pretty sure that will also make it "visible" on your
MCX.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > "jhorn" wrote:
> > >
> > > > So I tried moving "my music" to the shared folders directory. The
extender
> > > > was able to see my music as suggested above. However, I noticed
that I was
> > > > able to delete items from the extender (something I don't want
possible from
> > > > the extender- and a topic I found posted previously). I was
surprised that
> > > > when I put the album I deleted back on the pc the extender did not
recognize
> > > > its presence. I even went to info and added the shared music folder
again,
> > > > but it did not find the replaced album (despite the album showing up
on the
> > > > tree structure as you decide which folder to add). This seems to be
a
> > > > mystery???
> > > >
> > > > To fix the extender from deleting I turned of simple file sharing
and set
> > > > the MCX to read only; however that did not fix it (I'm thinking
because it is
> > > > in the shared folder there are a lot of permissions to all so I
really did
> > > > not remove permissions).
> > > >
> > > > But back to keeping my music and pictures under "My documents" and
allowing
> > > > accessibility to these folder by the extender. I'm thinking I could
set my
> > > > music and pictures folders under my documents to add MCX/users as
read only.
> > > > Hopefully then the extender would see my music.
> > > >
> > > > If none of this works I can uninstall/reinstall the extender
software using
> > > > default settings and share My documents from the beginning (Although
I still
> > > > worry about leaving that whole folder open). Actually I tried to
uninstall
> > > > but could not find the extender program under add/remove programs.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the continued help,
> > > > jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > One more quick note - any content you copy to the Shared Documents
folders
> > > > > (e.g. Shared Videos, Shared Music...) will be viewable on your MCX
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "P-Chip" <PChip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > XP comes pre-configured with simple file sharing. This means
that your
> > > > > > documents (which is really "My Documents" for each user) are
restricted to
> > > > > > the user only. When you check that box that says "share folders"
during
> > > > > > setup, it gives the MCX user (most likely MCX1) access to all
your
> > > > > documents
> > > > > > (My Music, My Videos, My Pictures, etc.), and also access to all
the
> > > > > Shared
> > > > > > folders. However, if you don't give access during setup, the
user MCX1
> > > > > does
> > > > > > not have privilege to view those folders or the contents
thereof.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In your case, when you log into the home network as yourself on
your
> > > > > laptop,
> > > > > > you probably have the same user name and password on your laptop
as you do
> > > > > on
> > > > > > your MCE PC (if you are set up as a simple workgroup and not a
domain).
> > > > > This
> > > > > > is the reason you are able to see all the shared folders without
a
> > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't really know too much about simple file sharing, but I
guess you
> > > > > > could bring up the file-sharing wizard and choose the "allow
access to my
> > > > > > files and folders" option. Not sure how to go about it, since I
am not at
> > > > > > home right now (search for help on "file sharing"). That should
do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, the way I would go about it is to disable simple file
sharing and
> > > > > > then give explicit permissions to MCX1 on each of my media
folders (by
> > > > > > right-clicking and selecting "Sharing and Security" from the
context
> > > > > menu).
> > > > > > Once you do that, you will be able to "see" all your media
folders from
> > > > > your
> > > > > > MCX device and add them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, if you are averse to tinkering with the security on you
PC, you
> > > > > > could, as you mentioned, reinstall the MCX software on your PC.
Just to be
> > > > > > sure, I would uninstall it first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know if that helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "jhorn" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the response pchip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess i got a little exited to get it up and running. I do
remember
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > second question during extender set-up concerning the
extender using
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > same folders as current user. I'm guessing I did not check
yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I attempted to add new folders through the extender as you
mentioned,
> > > > > > > however I was unable to "see" any of the shared folders. They
simply
> > > > > did not
> > > > > > > come up under any of the folders from what I can tell.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was able to see my shared music and pics when my laptop
connected to
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > home network so I do not think these folders are restricted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can I simply reinstall the extender software over itself, this
time
> > > > > checking
> > > > > > > the share folders as current user? Either way it seems that
if i
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > want to share "my documents" as a whole, at some point i must
set
> > > > > specific
> > > > > > > media content to be shared.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks. ... can't wait to get it fully up an running. Very
cool.
> > > > > > > jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "P-Chip" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are two ways of going about it:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. You can specify during setup that the MCX user (which is
the
> > > > > security
> > > > > > > > context under which your MCX device accesses your MCE PC)
should just
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > the same folders as the current user (by checking the
checkbox). I
> > > > > guess you
> > > > > > > > are already past this point, so your second option is...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. From your MCX device, you can easily add or remove
folders thru the
> > > > > > > > interface.
> > > > > > > > (a) For example, with your video files, go to "My Videos"
from the
> > > > > main MCE
> > > > > > > > screen on your MCX device;
> > > > > > > > (b) Click the "i" (More Information) button on your remote;
> > > > > > > > (c) Select "Add/Remove Folders" from the pop-up menu, and
select
> > > > > "Folders on
> > > > > > > > the Local Machine".
> > > > > > > > (d) This will show you all the drives and folders that are
available
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > access. Select the folders that you want and click "Next"
(or
> > > > > "Finish" -- I
> > > > > > > > can't remember which) and just follow on-screen
instructions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unless you specifically denied access on any of the folders,
or have
> > > > > > > > specified exclusive access to some users only, the MCX user
will be
> > > > > able to
> > > > > > > > add any folder and/or subfolders from your PC to My Videos,
My Music
> > > > > and My
> > > > > > > > Pictures.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "jhorn" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I recently set up an OEM MCE 2005 sytstem and a new
linksys
> > > > > extender. To my
> > > > > > > > > surprise, everything was up and working without to much of
a fuss,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > included surpringly good video over a G wirless network,
although I
> > > > > it is a
> > > > > > > > > relatively small distance to travel (The linksys even
included the
> > > > > stronger
> > > > > > > > > WPA encryption- which I had heard the contrary from many
posts).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The problem I had was sharing my pictures, music and video
to the
> > > > > extender.
> > > > > > > > > To avoid sharing everything in "My Document" I did not
check the
> > > > > Share My
> > > > > > > > > documents box during the extender setup. Insead I
manually set my
> > > > > music and
> > > > > > > > > picutres folders under "my document" and shared them.
While I can
> > > > > see them
> > > > > > > > > available from other computers on my network, I cannot see
these
> > > > > files from
> > > > > > > > > the extender. How does one go about sharing these
speicfic folders
> > > > > (my music
> > > > > > > > > and my document) exclusively and capable of seeing from
the
> > > > > extender. I hope
> > > > > > > > > to have it set so that I don't have to manually drag new
files to a
> > > > > shared
> > > > > > > > > folder each time i add new music and pitures on the MCE
2005 PC and
> > > > > then have
> > > > > > > > > to do it again from the extender.
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >


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