Re: What is Elecard and why do I need it?

From: Jason Tsang (jason-onlineDEL_at_ETEmvps.org)
Date: 02/08/05


Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:44:20 -0500

Microsoft has not created nor provided any of their own MPEG2 codecs.

 Hopefully you weren't looking for them as it'd be a fruitless search.

 Would recommend you use NVidia's DVD decoder.

-- 
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
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"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews@clara.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1107883404.19327.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
> Thanks Stephen,
>
> I found and downloaded DECCHECK which told me I have 5 MPEG2 codecs
> installed! None of them looked like MS software, which I would have 
> expected
> to be with MCE as there must have been something there in the first place.
> The others are Elecard, Cyberlink, Arcsoft, Ulead and Sonic, with the
> Cyberlink marked as 'Preferred' but not compatible with 'synchronisation'!
> I followed the option to upgrade Cyberlink but they want money for their
> 'Power Packs'!
> I have a feeling I need to get rid of these and find whatever MS codecs 
> were
> originally on MCE as they all used to work.
>
> Nigel
>
> "Stephen Neal" <stephen.neal@nospam.as-directed.com> wrote in message
> news:cu7iaq$t0b$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> "Nigel Andrews" <nandrews@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1107708200.95250.0@demeter.uk.clara.net...
>> > Hmm that's not very encouraging.
>> >
>> > Perhaps I need to seperate playing recorded TV and playing other video
>> > files
>> > (mpeg, avi, etc.) on the MCE PC and playing the same things in WMP
>> > although
>> > still on the same PC.
>> > I am getting the problem playing recorded TV in WMP and also playing
> some
>> > mpegs in MCE! I have tried downloading and installing a couple of
> versions
>> > of the Elecard decoder and even the Elecard player. The player plays 
>> > the
>> > mpeg files O.K. but some mpegs in MCE shows the 'evaluation expired'
>> > message
>> > which is weird! If the Elecard player finds the codec or came with the
>> > right
>> > codec why doesn't MCE find it?
>>
>> Might not work with MCE 2004 - but there is a DECCHECK program on the MS
>> site that shows you which MPEG2 decoders you have installed, and which 
>> one
>> is the default.
>>
>> I had the Elecard trial version installed on mine for a while - it is 
>> much
>> better at coping with HDTV decoding on lower spec machines than many
>> others - but it came with an uninstall option. (There is a warning on
> their
>> website that when you uninstall, some of the error messages that require 
>> a
>> response may display BEHIND the installer/uninstaller window,  requiring
> you
>> to drag this window away from its default position to see them BTW)
>>
>> Sounds like you have got more than one MPEG2 filter installed to me - the
>> Elecard one starts adding its own messages (and a little set of moving
>> blocks) to any video it decodes once its trial period has expired.  You
>> wouldn't have noticed if you'd installed this previously and replaced
>> existing MPEG2 decoders I guess?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> >
>> > Nigel
>> >
>> >
>> > "Manny Otero" <manny_otero@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:IEkNd.388$fc4.49@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> >> Sounds like the symptoms of installing a codec pack with unknown 
>> >> codecs
>> > in.
>> >> I have had this once and one thing I know, I dont think you will find
> it
>> > in
>> >> add/remove programs. I battled with it for ages and in the end I wiped
>> >> the
>> >> pc and started again and vowed never to install a codec pack again.
>> >>
>> >> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:42057791.4070702@neo.rr.com...
>> >> > Windows Media Player does not come with an MPEG 2 decoder, but will
> use
>> >> > one if it's installed.  Apparently, you installed, and it's using,
> the
>> > one
>> >> > that is expired.  Note, you can have multiple encoders installed, so
>> >> > you
>> >> > could have one that had expired, and another one that has not
> expired.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can you remove the expired one (is it listed in control panel
>> >> > add/remove?)?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Nigel Andrews wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Well I now have the Elecard 2.0 player installed with it's codecs
> and
>> > can
>> >> >> play video files in that player O.K.
>> >> >> But as before playing the same files in Media Centre shows the same
>> >> >> scrolling message about my evaluation period expired!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So it doesn't seem that the Mpeg-2 decoder was need. It is 
>> >> >> something
>> > that
>> >> >> has expired in MCE, and just a year after I bought it which is most
>> >> >> significant!! Are other people finding there files aren't playing
>> >> >> correctly
>> >> >> at the anniversary of receiving their MCE PC's?!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nigel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Robert Schlabbach" <robert_s@gmx.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:cu27vm$mqk$05$1@news.t-online.com...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >> >>>news:1107587372.28535.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Please can someone suggest why, on many videos files that I now
> play
>> > on
>> >> >>>>my MCE 2004, I have a scrolling message saying "My Elecard
> evaluation
>> >> >>
>> >> >> has
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>expired". Not only that but I also find I get the same if I play
>> >> >>
>> >> >> recorded
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>TV files on Windows Media Player, even though still on the MCE PC!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Surely
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>I don't have to pay to be able to watch files created by MCE?!!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>You have to pay for an MPEG-2 decoder package, and it seems you
>> >> >>>didn't.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>message you are seeing comes from the Elecard MPEG-2 decoder after
> its
>> >> >>>trial period has expired. You need to purchase and install an 
>> >> >>>MPEG-2
>> >> >>>decoder package. Those don't come for free as $2.50 per piece have
> to
>> > be
>> >> >>>paid to the MPEG-LA.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Regards,«
>> >> >>>-- 
>> >> >>>Robert Schlabbach
>> >> >>>e-mail: robert_s@gmx.net
>> >> >>>Berlin, Germany
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 


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