Re: Xbox Extender giving network congestion errors
From: Jason Tsang (jason-onlineDEL_at_ETEmvps.org)
Date: 02/05/05
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 00:28:42 -0500
You need to have a crossover cable if you are connecting the MCE computer
straight to the Xbox.
A normal straight through cable will not work.
-- Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP Find out about the MS MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx "EW" <EW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0DE5BBED-CD63-4A49-98E4-8D8F9B4684A9@microsoft.com... > Thanks for the reply. > > Hum the problem occurs with the Linsys WRT54G connect like this. > Network cable from Linksys cable modem. > Network cable to Media center PC > Network cable to XBOX. > > The reason I use a wireless router is because I bring my laptop home from > work and connect to work with it. It has a wireless ethernet card. > > I've done this to wire my home. I've connected the router to a terminal > block of ethenet cables. I've conneted the ethernet cables through the > walls to the xboxs in other rooms in the house. I've tested these > connections and they are fine. > > To troubleshoot this issue I bought the 25 ft of 568B 2 Cat 5e Cable to > connect from the HUB to the XBOX. I will try connecting the Cable from > the > Media Center PC to the XBOX directly. I will report back the status. > > The above test won't work for a permanent solution. Any suggestions to > make > this work permamently will be appreciated. Money isn't an issue. > However I > would like to get this to work through the XBOX instead of purchasing a > Media > Center Extender. Also I believe that If we get my configuration working > it > will benefit the community of XBOX users. > > EOM > ===================================================== > ===================================================== > > "Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" wrote: > >> your hub could be the issue (especially if it is a 10mb only hub). >> you'd want to use a 10/100 switch. >> >> On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 04:23:05 -0800, "EW" <EW@discussions.microsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >> >I've got the same issue when playing back recorded TV shows. >> >I've downloaded the TweakMCE and followed your instructions. >> >This is a 3 month old XBOX and I've gone through 3 since XBOX live >> >started. >> >I was hoping I could use the others for MCE extenders. This is a >> >different >> >issue. >> > >> >Please help. >> >My setup is this presently. >> >Cable Modem - to Linksys WRT54G - latest firmware. >> >Linksys Router to Linksys 5 Port Workgroup Hub. >> >Workgroup Hub to Media Center PC >> >Workgroup Hub also to XBOX extender. >> >25 ft of 568B 2 Cat 5e Cable from Workgroup Hub to XBOX. >> >Not running through router. router produced same errors. >> > >> >XBOX live runs great. >> > >> >Would it help having a new image for the XBOX extender? >> >Is there a way to update the XBOX extender through Media Center Extender >> >Manager? If I Hit the Y on the XBOX controller during load it waits >> >for an >> >image. >> >However, it states there isn't an image available for it when trying to >> >updated from the media center pc. >> > >> >Related Info: >> > >> >Media Center PC: >> > >> >OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional >> >Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600 ------------- Media Center? >> >OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation >> > >> >System Manufacturer INTEL_ >> >System Model D915PBL_ >> >System Type X86-based PC >> >Processor x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4 GenuineIntel ~3400 Mhz >> >Processor x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4 GenuineIntel ~3400 Mhz >> >BIOS Version/Date Intel Corp. CY91510A.86A.0012.2004.0609.1806, 6/9/2004 >> >SMBIOS Version 2.3 >> > >> >Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB >> >Available Physical Memory 556.54 MB >> >Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB >> >Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB >> >Page File Space 2.41 GB >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >"Todd Bowra [MSFT]" wrote: >> > >> >> It appears that your network is operating right on the edge of >> >> acceptability >> >> (due to the drops in throughput to 0), which really makes no sense >> >> given >> >> that it's 100 Mbps wired. Recovery from network congestion works >> >> slightly >> >> different with Live content (vs. buffered content), which would >> >> account for >> >> the two behaviors you see. Something to try: >> >> >> >> 1) Download and install the TweakMCE power toy (let me know if you >> >> don't >> >> have this already) >> >> 2) Launch Media Center on your PC, navigate to More Programs and >> >> select >> >> TweakMCE >> >> 3) From the main list, choose Extender and then Show Network >> >> Congestion >> >> notification >> >> 4) Select Do Not Show Notification; click Save and then Exit >> >> 5) Restart your Media Center and your MCX >> >> 6) Attempt to play recorded TV again >> >> 7) If you still see the notification in the upper right warning you of >> >> network congestion, repeat steps 2-6, but select "Show Notification" >> >> in step >> >> 4 >> >> >> >> note: this is a workaround only - it doesn't resolve the underlying >> >> issue >> >> note 2: TweakMCE is an unsupported power toy and is not guaranteed to >> >> work >> >> >> >> -- >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> >> rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Kraig with a K" <kraig@kraig.kom> wrote in message >> >> news:%23v$X50SCFHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> >> > Hi Todd, >> >> > >> >> > yes it does! ... what could it be? >> >> > >> >> > and yes Kraig = Craig :) Different computers used while posting... >> >> > :) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:OPblHZMCFHA.1932@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> >> > > Quick experiment to try - start a Live TV stream, pause for 5 >> >> > > minutes, >> >> and >> >> > > then watch it (5 minutes behind Live - do not skip forward). Do >> >> > > you see >> >> > > network congestion issues? >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers >> >> > > no >> >> > > rights. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > "Craig in Montreal" <craigmtl@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > > news:%23s8658LCFHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> So I just tested mine. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Crossover cable: same problem >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Added second NIC with a D-Link DFW-538TX, disabled other.. tried >> >> through >> >> > >> a >> >> > >> hub and switch: same problem >> >> > >> >> >> > >> So now I'm back to the original problem - eveRy minute or so, I >> >> > >> get 5 >> >> > >> seconds of Network Congestion. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> There is one thing I didn't mention earlier though: it is only on >> >> > >> recorded >> >> > >> TV. I don't get the same problem on live TV.. so the network may >> >> > >> not >> >> be >> >> > > the >> >> > >> issue.. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Kraig >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> > >> message >> >> > >> news:%23Idfw2HCFHA.4008@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> > Another option that may be easier is to temporarily relocate >> >> > >> > the Xbox >> >> > > near >> >> > >> > the PC. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Regarding the network usage graph - the fact that it drops to 0 >> >> > > indicates >> >> > >> > that one of three things likely happened: >> >> > >> > 1) Your PC stopped sending data >> >> > >> > 2) Your network (router/switch/etc.) stopped relaying data >> >> > >> > 3) Your Xbox stopped receiving data >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Based on previous observations, I'm inclined to believe that >> >> > >> > item 1 >> >> or >> >> > >> > 2 >> >> > >> > is >> >> > >> > at fault. You've mostly eliminated 2 as the source, but using a >> >> > > cross-over >> >> > >> > cable will confirm this. This leaves #1 as the likely cause. >> >> > >> > Before >> >> we >> >> > > go >> >> > >> > to >> >> > >> > far down that path, it would be best to eliminate #2. Let us >> >> > >> > know how >> >> > >> > it >> >> > >> > goes with the cross-over cable and we'll go from there. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> >> > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> >> > >> > confers no >> >> > >> > rights. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > "JW" <anonymous@Nospam.Iam> wrote in message >> >> > >> > news:u5yJLsGCFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> If you have a short x-over cable and a regular cable then just >> >> > >> >> get a >> >> > >> >> cable >> >> > >> >> extender connector( 2 female connections) at RS it is a much >> >> > >> >> more >> >> > > useful >> >> > >> >> adapter to have around the house. >> >> > >> >> "Kraig with a K" <kraig@kraig.kom> wrote in message >> >> > >> >> news:u8s9WYGCFHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> > Hi Todd.. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Few questions: >> >> > >> >> >> - Have you rebooted both your PC and Xbox recently? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Yes, I reboot every couple days - and often shut down the >> >> > >> >> > computer >> >> > >> >> > if >> >> > > I >> >> > >> >> > have no scheduled recordings. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> - What have you changed/installed/removed on your PC >> >> > >> >> >> between the >> >> > > time >> >> > >> >> >> that >> >> > >> >> >> things worked well and when the problem appeared? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I've done nothing, added nothing, installed nothing except >> >> > >> >> > Windows >> >> > >> >> > critical updates. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> - What is your full network topology, including all >> >> > >> >> >> routers, >> >> > > switches, >> >> > >> >> >> PCs, >> >> > >> >> >> etc.? What if anything has changed on your network between >> >> > >> >> >> the >> >> time >> >> > >> > this >> >> > >> >> >> worked and now? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Nothing has changed. Topology: Xbox over Cat5e network >> >> > >> >> > cable >> >> to >> >> > > my >> >> > >> >> > usual Linksys WAP54G router. Firmware is the latest. I've >> >> > >> >> > also >> >> > > tried >> >> > >> > it >> >> > >> >> > with a Linksys EG0801W desktop Switch I borrowed from work. >> >> > >> >> > DHCP >> >> > >> >> > is >> >> > >> >> > disabled, all static IPs. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I also have a Tosiba R100 laptop that connects wirelessly, >> >> > >> >> > but the >> >> > >> > problem >> >> > >> >> > does not change if the laptop is on or off. I have security >> >> enabled >> >> > > and >> >> > >> > my >> >> > >> >> > SSID is disabled - nobody is connecting to my wireless >> >> > >> >> > router but >> >> > >> >> > me. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> - Have you tried directly connecting your PC to the Xbox >> >> > >> >> >> via a >> >> > >> > crossover >> >> > >> >> >> cable, eliminating all of your switches, routers, etc.? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I don't have a 10 metre crossover cable I'm afraid, but I'll >> >> > >> >> > try >> >> and >> >> > >> > hunt >> >> > >> >> > that down tonight.. (so no, haven't checked this yet). >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> - While TV is streaming to your Xbox, open Task Manager and >> >> > >> >> >> click >> >> > >> >> >> on >> >> > >> > the >> >> > >> >> >> Networking tab; next select View --> Update Speed --> High. >> >> > >> >> >> Let >> >> > >> >> >> this >> >> > >> > run >> >> > >> >> >> until you see the network congestion notification on your >> >> > >> >> >> Xbox >> >> then >> >> > >> > check >> >> > >> >> >> the Networking graph - are there any major drops in >> >> > >> >> >> throughput >> >> > >> >> >> (especially >> >> > >> >> >> if they drop to 0) before you saw the network congestion >> >> > > notification? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Yes it dropped to zero and then climbed back up to about 15% >> >> > >> >> > usage >> >> > >> >> > where >> >> > >> >> > it was normal. Rollercoaster graph. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks.. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Kraig >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >> > >> >> > news:uIKNB$7BFHA.3528@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> >> The most common cause for this behavior is a buggy driver >> >> > >> >> >> for >> >> your >> >> > >> >> >> PC's >> >> > >> >> >> Ethernet card; this doesn't appear to be the cause in your >> >> > >> >> >> case >> >> > > given >> >> > >> >> >> that >> >> > >> >> >> this used to work and that you're running the latest >> >> > >> >> >> driver. The >> >> > > next >> >> > >> >> >> more >> >> > >> >> >> common cause is firmware issues with switches/routers. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Few questions: >> >> > >> >> >> - Have you rebooted both your PC and Xbox recently? >> >> > >> >> >> - What have you changed/installed/removed on your PC >> >> > >> >> >> between the >> >> > > time >> >> > >> >> >> that >> >> > >> >> >> things worked well and when the problem appeared? >> >> > >> >> >> - What is your full network topology, including all >> >> > >> >> >> routers, >> >> > > switches, >> >> > >> >> >> PCs, >> >> > >> >> >> etc.? What if anything has changed on your network between >> >> > >> >> >> the >> >> time >> >> > >> > this >> >> > >> >> >> worked and now? >> >> > >> >> >> - Have you tried directly connecting your PC to the Xbox >> >> > >> >> >> via a >> >> > >> > crossover >> >> > >> >> >> cable, eliminating all of your switches, routers, etc.? >> >> > >> >> >> - While TV is streaming to your Xbox, open Task Manager and >> >> > >> >> >> click >> >> > >> >> >> on >> >> > >> > the >> >> > >> >> >> Networking tab; next select View --> Update Speed --> High. >> >> > >> >> >> Let >> >> > >> >> >> this >> >> > >> > run >> >> > >> >> >> until you see the network congestion notification on your >> >> > >> >> >> Xbox >> >> then >> >> > >> > check >> >> > >> >> >> the Networking graph - are there any major drops in >> >> > >> >> >> throughput >> >> > >> >> >> (especially >> >> > >> >> >> if they drop to 0) before you saw the network congestion >> >> > > notification? >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> > >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> >> > >> >> >> confers >> >> no >> >> > >> >> >> rights. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Kraig with a K" <kraig@kraig.kom> wrote in message >> >> > >> >> >> news:%23xP%23mU6BFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> >>> Hello all, >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> My Xbox extender has started to give me network congestion >> >> errors. >> >> > >> >> >>> It >> >> > >> >> >>> was >> >> > >> >> >>> working flawlessly for a few months, but now I can't get >> >> > >> >> >>> rid of >> >> > > them. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I have a AMD 64, 1gb RAM, 200gb SATA drive. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I've changed all the network hardware - I'm using a >> >> > >> >> >>> Linksys >> >> 10/100 >> >> > >> >> >>> switch >> >> > >> >> >>> now. I've replaced the network cable from the Xbox to >> >> > >> >> >>> the >> >> > >> >> >>> Switch >> >> > >> >> >>> which >> >> > >> >> >> is >> >> > >> >> >>> about 10 metres away. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I've defragmented my hard drive. I've tried disabling the >> >> > > antivirus >> >> > >> >> >>> real >> >> > >> >> >>> time protection (Kaspersky). I've updated the network >> >> > >> >> >>> drivers >> >> > >> >> >>> (Chaintech >> >> > >> >> >>> Motherboard on-board Realtek). There are no additional >> >> processes >> >> > >> >> >>> running >> >> > >> >> >>> and the Extender monitor has zero bars - only one when >> >> > >> >> >>> it's >> >> > > attached >> >> > >> > and >> >> > >> >> >>> playing. The computer is clean - I barely use it only to >> >> > >> >> >>> record >> >> > >> >> >>> TV >> >> > >> > and >> >> > >> >> >> burn >> >> > >> >> >>> files, there has been no major or minor configuration >> >> > >> >> >>> change in >> >> > >> >> >>> months >> >> > >> >> >>> on >> >> > >> >> >>> it. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I installed Network Spy 2.0 to monitor the bandwidth and >> >> > >> >> >>> when >> >> I'm >> >> > >> >> >>> playing >> >> > >> >> >>> recorded TV on the Xbox, it never, ever even goes beyond >> >> > >> >> >>> 20% of >> >> > >> >> >>> the >> >> > >> >> >>> bandwidth available. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I'm frustrated now, I can't watch TV very well on the >> >> > >> >> >>> Xbox - >> >> every >> >> > > 5 >> >> > >> >> >> seconds >> >> > >> >> >>> it'll get congested, then it'll become uncongested for 1 >> >> > >> >> >>> minute, >> >> > > then >> >> > >> >> >>> back >> >> > >> >> >>> to 5-10 seconds of congestion.. the cycle continues. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> I've even tried reducing the recording quality of the >> >> > >> >> >>> shows to >> >> > > "low" >> >> > >> >> >>> and >> >> > >> >> >>> that doesn't solve the problem either. This has only >> >> > >> >> >>> started >> >> to >> >> > >> > happen >> >> > >> >> >> in >> >> > >> >> >>> the past 2 weeks... the computer has all the available >> >> > >> >> >>> updates >> >> on >> >> > >> >> >>> it. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> Xbox Live works perfectly - no network errors. I've >> >> > >> >> >>> hooked my >> >> > > laptop >> >> > >> > up >> >> > >> >> >> to >> >> > >> >> >>> the network cable as well and there doesn't appear to be >> >> > >> >> >>> any >> >> > > cabling >> >> > >> >> >>> issues - but then again, I swapped cables with a new one >> >> > >> >> >>> to.. >> >> but >> >> > >> > still >> >> > >> >> >> have >> >> > >> >> >>> the same problem. >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> Anyone else have any ideas? >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> Thank you >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> Kraig >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Barb Bowman >> Expert Zone Columnist >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone >> MS-MVP (Windows) >>
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