Re: Xbox Extender giving network congestion errors

From: Todd Bowra [MSFT] (toddbow_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/01/05 

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:47:15 -0800

Another option that may be easier is to temporarily relocate the Xbox near
the PC.

Regarding the network usage graph - the fact that it drops to 0 indicates
that one of three things likely happened:
1) Your PC stopped sending data
2) Your network (router/switch/etc.) stopped relaying data
3) Your Xbox stopped receiving data

Based on previous observations, I'm inclined to believe that item 1 or 2 is
at fault. You've mostly eliminated 2 as the source, but using a cross-over
cable will confirm this. This leaves #1 as the likely cause. Before we go to
far down that path, it would be best to eliminate #2. Let us know how it
goes with the cross-over cable and we'll go from there. 

-- 
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"JW" <anonymous@Nospam.Iam> wrote in message
news:u5yJLsGCFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If you have a short x-over cable and a regular cable then just get a cable
> extender connector( 2 female connections) at RS it is a much more useful
> adapter to have around the house.
> "Kraig with a K" <kraig@kraig.kom> wrote in message
> news:u8s9WYGCFHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Todd..
> >
> >
> >> Few questions:
> >> - Have you rebooted both your PC and Xbox recently?
> >
> > Yes, I reboot every couple days - and often shut down the computer if I
> > have no scheduled recordings.
> >
> >
> >> - What have you changed/installed/removed on your PC between the time
> >> that
> >> things worked well and when the problem appeared?
> >
> > I've done nothing, added nothing, installed nothing except Windows
> > critical updates.
> >
> >> - What is your full network topology, including all routers, switches,
> >> PCs,
> >> etc.? What if anything has changed on your network between the time
this
> >> worked and now?
> >
> > Nothing has changed.    Topology:  Xbox over Cat5e network cable to my
> > usual Linksys WAP54G router. Firmware is the latest.    I've also tried
it
> > with a Linksys EG0801W desktop Switch I borrowed from work.   DHCP is
> > disabled, all static IPs.
> >
> > I also have a Tosiba R100 laptop that connects wirelessly, but the
problem
> > does not change if the laptop is on or off. I have security enabled and
my
> > SSID is disabled - nobody is connecting to my wireless router but me.
> >
> >> - Have you tried directly connecting your PC to the Xbox via a
crossover
> >> cable, eliminating all of your switches, routers, etc.?
> >
> >
> > I don't have a 10 metre crossover cable I'm afraid, but I'll try and
hunt
> > that down tonight.. (so no, haven't checked this yet).
> >
> >> - While TV is streaming to your Xbox, open Task Manager and click on
the
> >> Networking tab; next select View --> Update Speed --> High. Let this
run
> >> until you see the network congestion notification on your Xbox then
check
> >> the Networking graph - are there any major drops in throughput
> >> (especially
> >> if they drop to 0) before you saw the network congestion notification?
> >
> > Yes it dropped to zero and then climbed back up to about 15% usage where
> > it was normal.  Rollercoaster graph.
> >
> > Thanks..
> >
> > Kraig
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:uIKNB$7BFHA.3528@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> The most common cause for this behavior is a buggy driver for your PC's
> >> Ethernet card; this doesn't appear to be the cause in your case given
> >> that
> >> this used to work and that you're running the latest driver. The next
> >> more
> >> common cause is firmware issues with switches/routers.
> >>
> >> Few questions:
> >> - Have you rebooted both your PC and Xbox recently?
> >> - What have you changed/installed/removed on your PC between the time
> >> that
> >> things worked well and when the problem appeared?
> >> - What is your full network topology, including all routers, switches,
> >> PCs,
> >> etc.? What if anything has changed on your network between the time
this
> >> worked and now?
> >> - Have you tried directly connecting your PC to the Xbox via a
crossover
> >> cable, eliminating all of your switches, routers, etc.?
> >> - While TV is streaming to your Xbox, open Task Manager and click on
the
> >> Networking tab; next select View --> Update Speed --> High. Let this
run
> >> until you see the network congestion notification on your Xbox then
check
> >> the Networking graph - are there any major drops in throughput
> >> (especially
> >> if they drop to 0) before you saw the network congestion notification?
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kraig with a K" <kraig@kraig.kom> wrote in message
> >> news:%23xP%23mU6BFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> My Xbox extender has started to give me network congestion errors.  It
> >>> was
> >>> working flawlessly for a few months, but now I can't get rid of them.
> >>>
> >>> I have a AMD 64, 1gb RAM, 200gb SATA drive.
> >>>
> >>> I've changed all the network hardware - I'm using a Linksys 10/100
> >>> switch
> >>> now.    I've replaced the network cable from the Xbox to the Switch
> >>> which
> >> is
> >>> about 10 metres away.
> >>>
> >>> I've defragmented my hard drive.  I've tried disabling the antivirus
> >>> real
> >>> time protection (Kaspersky).  I've updated the network drivers
> >>> (Chaintech
> >>> Motherboard on-board Realtek).  There are no additional processes
> >>> running
> >>> and the Extender monitor has zero bars - only one when it's attached
and
> >>> playing.  The computer is clean - I barely use it only to record TV
and
> >> burn
> >>> files, there has been no major or minor configuration change in months
> >>> on
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> I installed Network Spy 2.0 to monitor the bandwidth and when I'm
> >>> playing
> >>> recorded TV on the Xbox, it never, ever even goes beyond 20% of the
> >>> bandwidth available.
> >>>
> >>> I'm frustrated now, I can't watch TV very well on the Xbox - every 5
> >> seconds
> >>> it'll get congested, then it'll become uncongested for 1 minute, then
> >>> back
> >>> to 5-10 seconds of congestion.. the cycle continues.
> >>>
> >>> I've even tried reducing the recording quality of the shows to "low"
> >>> and
> >>> that doesn't solve the problem either.   This has only started to
happen
> >> in
> >>> the past 2 weeks...  the computer has all the available updates on it.
> >>>
> >>> Xbox Live works perfectly - no network errors.  I've hooked my laptop
up
> >> to
> >>> the network cable as well and there doesn't appear to be any cabling
> >>> issues - but then again, I swapped cables with a new one to.. but
still
> >> have
> >>> the same problem.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone else have any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>> Kraig
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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