Re: XBOX Media Extender Doesn't Play music files with DRM
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Date: 12/28/04
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:37:19 -0000
1 of 3 things will happen when it crashes:
1. It will drop back to the 'your MCE PC has disconnected' screen and
'press OK to reconnect' -- this is mostly with the MCMsgr crash
2. It will freeze and no remote buttons will work, however when I do
press buttons on the remote the Game Adapter does flash so the Xbox is
sending on my requests, and Power on the remote will bring the Xbox out of
MCX software - I think this means the freeze has occurred on the MCE PC?
3. It will freeze completely, no buttons will work, and pressing Power on
the remote does nothing - hard reboot of Xbox required
Thanks for your ongoing help Todd. I'm hoping you'll be the one to resolve
these issues for me.
-- CJSnet (Remove TEETH to reply by e-mail.) "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ehxOiAK7EHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > When you say that the Xbox crashes, what exactly happens? > > -- > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > > > "CJSnet" <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote in message > news:uCriHBa6EHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> I don't run them at the same time. Interestingly I used to have the > Linksys >> AP instead of Router. I can't say these problems occurred then because I >> didn't try DRM files, but I know Messenger didn't crash the device. >> >> However, the Linksys MCX did crash about as frequently as it does now, so >> Messenger aside I think the problems were the same. >> >> Any other ideas? I mean, the Router seems to work very well. I can >> watch >> entire movies without a crash, and my Laptop connects to it wirelessly >> without issue also. It's only when I press buttons that the MCXs will >> crash -- i.e. I was listening to live365.com on the Xbox, and I pressed > the >> green button -- boom, the entire Xbox crashed and had to be switched off. >> Does this sound like the Router, or just software issues? >> -- >> Thanks. >> >> CJSnet >> >> (Remove TEETH to reply by e-mail.) >> >> >> "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:OsQrUWY6EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> > Based on the performance issues you noted in your earlier post, I'm >> > definitely inclined to believe that your wireless network is the source > of >> > the problem. As far as how to fix it, the first thing I'd try is to > borrow >> > a >> > friend's access point and see if that makes a difference. Also, are you >> > running both the Xbox and MCX at the same time? If so, they will be >> > competing for bandwidth on your wireless network, making things worse. >> > >> > -- >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> > rights. >> > >> > >> > "CJSnet" <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote in message >> > news:%23YOgbSV6EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> >> "Todd Bowra [MSFT]" <toddbow@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OHBvlsL6EHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> > It sounds like something on your network is slightly marginal. >> >> >> >> See my post above in reply to Barb tonight, but basically the signal >> >> strength is about 75% so there may be another issue. >> >> >> >> > Here's what's happening - the first time you attempt to play a >> >> > DRM'ed >> >> > song, >> >> > a security check is run. The most likely cause of failure for that >> >> > security >> >> > check is something "funky" (scientific term ;-) on your network. If >> >> > that >> >> > check fails, it will be rerun on the next song/the next time you hit >> > play. >> >> > If it succeeds, it won't be run again for awhile. This is why once >> >> > it >> >> > works >> >> > it continues to work great until you reset the MCX (which starts the >> >> > process >> >> > over). >> >> >> >> Makes perfect sense, that's what I think too. >> >> >> >> > Given that this happens on both MCX devices that you have, this > appears >> > to >> >> > be related to your router or your PC, with your router being the >> >> > more >> >> > likely >> >> > culprit. Couple of related questions: >> >> > - Are you running the latest Linksys firmware on your router? (not >> >> > third-party firmware) >> >> >> >> Certainly am. >> >> >> >> > - Can you move your MCX to the same room as your MCE and connect it > via >> >> > wired instead of wireless? I know you said you don't have a second > TV, >> > but >> >> > you could use your MCE as the display surface; you'll have a 1 >> >> > second >> >> > latency for the pause buffer encoding, but it should be usable >> >> > enough >> > for >> >> > the purposes of this experiment >> >> >> >> For the sake of argument let's just assume I tried that and it worked >> >> perfectly. What solutions would you propose in that instance? >> >> -- >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> CJSnet >> >> >> >> (Remove TEETH to reply by e-mail.) >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> >> > rights. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "CJSnet" <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote in message >> >> > news:eoUgyZH6EHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Hi Barb >> >> >> >> >> >> "Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:u6nis0humm26dlcbqt5vtnsgf9vd6nvp4d@4ax.com... >> >> >> > do your logs show the actual time of these entries? I've seen a >> > couple >> >> >> >> >> >> No times are shown, and I doubt it's heavy attacks -- especially as > it >> >> >> *never* manages to play the DRM files on the first attempt from MCX >> > boot, >> >> >> and almost always manages on the 2nd attempt. >> >> >> >> >> >> > of routers that, when they are heavy "attack" just stop passing > any >> >> >> > traffic internally, and/or strange things happen. BTW, are you >> > hosting >> >> >> > any servers on this machine? >> >> >> >> >> >> No servers, it's my home PC just as MS envisaged, with the MCE PC >> >> >> in >> >> >> my >> >> >> office and the MCX Xbox in my living room. >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'd be curious to see what happens if you unplugged the WAN >> >> >> > router/broadband modem cable and tried to play music. this would >> >> >> > either produce failures each and every time if it was necessary >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > check the license via the internet before playing or produce > success >> >> >> > every time if the issue was the router locking up and not passing >> >> >> > traffic. >> >> >> >> >> >> Okay, disconnected the cable modem and the same thing happened -- >> >> >> music >> >> >> wouldn't play, but after 2 or 3 attempts from different screens, it >> >> >> played >> >> >> fine and then on all subsequent occasions... so, we can rule > internet >> >> >> out! >> >> >> >> >> >> There seems to be a trend forming: >> >> >> 1. 1st attempt won't play >> >> >> 2. Hitting Play again just brings up 'an error occurred' >> >> >> 3. Moving to a different screen (e.g. out of the song view and > back >> > to >> >> >> playlist view) then hitting Play sometimes works >> >> >> 4. Moving to a different song in the Playlist and playing that >> >> > sometimes >> >> >> works >> >> >> 5. Once it works for ONE song, it then works for ALL songs > without >> >> >> question for the duration of the session -- e.g. if I leave the >> >> >> Xbox >> >> >> on >> >> > for >> >> >> 5 years, I will not see this problem again >> >> >> >> >> >> Also interesting is the actual initial error msg: "Unable to > validate >> >> >> security of your Media Center Extender". It's not having trouble > with >> >> >> the >> >> >> song, just the MCX. >> >> >> >> >> >> I feel we're getting closer to finding the cause Barb. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> CJSnet >> >> >> >> >> >> (Remove TEETH to reply by e-mail.) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the above could be way out in left field, too... i haven't had >> >> >> > anywhere near enough coffee yet. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:19:53 -0000, "CJSnet" >> >> >> > <usenet@TEETHthe-simpson.tv> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Thanks Barb. The MCE machine's Event Viewer shows no entries at > the >> >> > time >> >> >> >>of >> >> >> >>the failure I just recreated. The last relevant entry was >> >> >> >>'device >> >> >> >>successfully affiliated'. 20 seconds later it failed to play a >> >> > protected >> >> >> >>song (played it on the 2nd attempt although I have also had > repeated >> >> >> >>failures on previous attempts tonight which would not play back >> >> >> >>at >> >> >> >>all). >> >> >> >>No >> >> >> >>failure events. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>The Linksys Router log shows nothing for incoming (it is enabled) >> >> >> >>and >> >> > just >> >> >> >>the following for outgoing around the time of the failure: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.106.281863 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.106www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.101www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.106www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.196.55www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.196.121www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.196.55www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 63.241.55.113www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 209.73.26.183www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 63.241.55.113www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 84.22.161.220pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.173.213.147pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.196.55www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.248.113www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 207.46.248.114www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.101www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.106www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.2.39.30www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.103www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 193.38.108.198www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.103www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 213.199.150.86www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.2.39.30www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 84.22.161.220pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.173.213.147pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.101www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.106www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.103www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.101www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 146.101.245.106www >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 84.22.161.220pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.173.213.147pop3 >> >> >> >>192.168.1.101 195.188.53.61pop3 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>The protected content is all paid-for tracks downloaded from MSN >> > Music >> >> >> >>UK -- >> >> >> >>various Pop and RnB artists downloaded over the past few months > and >> >> > today. >> >> >> >>Every single track gives the errors message at least once. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I tried also disabling the firewall on the Router and the error >> >> >> >>still >> >> >> >>occurred. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I hope this helps you help me :) I appreciate you giving up your >> > time >> >> > on >> >> >> >>this fairly important issue. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Barb Bowman >> >> >> > Expert Zone Columnist >> >> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone >> >> >> > MS-MVP (Windows) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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