Re: Defragmenter no longer works.

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From: Doug Knox MS-MVP (dknox_at_mvps.org)
Date: 07/30/04


Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:32:05 -0400

This is not correct, Jack. Over time any disk that's used for write operations will become fragmented. This is particularly true for the drive that contains your TIF, System Restore information and other data that is constantly changing.

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"Jack Fu" <jackfu@pobox.com> wrote in message news:IpWdnRqNtdSTPJfcRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> Robert,
> 
> I tried what you advice. Defrag still doesn't work. (It hangs shortly after
> starting.)
> 
> I think I will have to bite the bullet and rebuild the disk. Ugh... Not
> looking forward to it.
> 
> But I have another question. I read somewhere recently (in one of the
> computer magazines - don't remember which one) that with Windows XP (and MCE
> is a version of XP I assume), you do not need to defrag. Is that correct?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> "R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
> news:6xiOc.57141$ju5.55866@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> Have you tried defrag in Safe Mode? During the boot sequence, press the F8
>> key and select Safe Mode at the (DOS) menu. You may also have a conflict
>> between Norton and Windows...you might try uninstalling the Norton
> version.
>>
>> -- 
>> Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
>> http://www.ambianceacoustics.com
>> San Diego, CA  USA
>> (858) 485-7514
>>
>> "Jack Fu" <jackfu@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:BOqdnezwHOTGApTcRVn-hw@comcast.com...
>> > I did this:
>> >
>> > CHKDSK C: /F
>> >
>> > I get response "Cannot lock current drive.  Chkdsk cannot run because
> the
>> > volume is in use by another process. Would you like to schedule this
>> volume
>> > to be checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)
>> >
>> > I answered Y and restarted the computer. CHKDSK ran. Everything is ok.
>> >
>> > But I still can't defrag!!!!
>> >
>> > Would appreciate more suggestions/help.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> > news:OhQV6oRdEHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Jack,
>> >
>> > Open a Command Prompt window and enter:
>> >
>> > CHKDSK  X:\  /F
>> >
>> > Where X is the drive letter that you're having trouble defragging.   If
>> the
>> > system can't gain exclusive access to the drive it will ask you if you
>> want
>> > to force a dismount of the volume.  Answer No.  Then it will ask you if
>> you
>> > want to schedule one at the next reboot. Answer yes and restart the
>> > computer.
>> >
>> > You can also use the /R command line switch, instead of the /F switch.
>> > CHKDSK /?  will get you a list of all the command line options.   After
>> > running CHKDSK on the drive, try defragging it again.  Also, clear your
>> > Temporary Internet Files first, as well.
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display
>> > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
>> > http://www.dougknox.com
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>> > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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>> >
>> > "Jack Fu" <jackfu@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> > news:j--dnbQ9sfNjo5XcRVn-pw@comcast.com...
>> > > Dana,
>> > >
>> > > I did as you suggest. Disk Management says the disk is Healthy. I
> still
>> > > can't run defrag. (It hangs.) Does anyone have any other suggestions?
> I
>> > > figure I will have to defrag the disk some time, or it will get very
>> slow.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance,
>> > > Jack
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Dana Cline - MVP" <dcline@scriptpro.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:%23W8u5lacEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > >> Could be any number of things. Right-click on My Computer, select
>> Manage,
>> > >> then Disk Management. I think you can then right-click on that drive
>> and
>> > > run
>> > >> some disk checking on it. I've not heard of any upper limit to disk
>> sizes
>> > > in
>> > >> Defrag, so I'm betting it's some kind of hardware error in the
> section
>> of
>> > >> the disk it's trying to reach.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dana Cline - MVP
>> > >>
>> > >> "Jack Fu" <jackfu@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:GM-dnSAiP-X4PZ_cRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> > >> > The defrag function on my PC no longer works. I tried using the
>> defrag
>> > >> > function that came with the PC. (C => Properties => Tools =>
>> > >> > Defragmentation) It gets stuck fairly early on. Alt/Ctrl/Del shows
>> that
>> > > it
>> > >> > is not responding. I also tried Norton's defragment function but
> that
>> > >> won't
>> > >> > even begin.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I would appreciate advice on how to get defrag to work. Or, advice
> on
>> > > some
>> > >> > other defrag utilities I can buy or download.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks in advance!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > (My PC is Fry's FM7550 3GHz  P4HT Media Center Edition, 1 GB
> memory,
>> > 200
>> > >> GB
>> > >> > disk, CD/DVD player, CD/DVD writer, TV tuner, etc.)
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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> 
>


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