Re: Re E-mail scanning with AVG

You're welcome. I'm sure you could get a better technical answer than what I was able to provide.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ObYYKhItJHA.1300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
That's ok Bruce..no pressure...and you volunteers do a superb job.
Thanks for your help.
J.
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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:u2XrEBHtJHA.4452@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cut me a little slack please, peejaa. It's just after 8:00 am here and after all, we are all volunteers.

I can not give you the technical reasons for what I have explained. After all, I am just a retired truck driver. From what I have read over time is that the ability to send a virus via e-mail without an attachment or link was rendered ineffective many years ago. Again, I have no documentation on this.

Here is just one example of how a virus, or any Malware is spread.

From the Computer Virus Guide:
http://www.starimage.co.uk/virus_guide.htm

<Q>
You cannot get a virus just by reading an email - you have to open the attachment.
</Q>

Some graphics can contain Web Beacons, (AKA Web Bugs), that verify your address without an attachment, but not a virus. That was the reason for the security option added to XP that will block pictures from being viewed if they are suspect. Tools | Options | Security.

Web Bugs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_beacons
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA




"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23yj30wGtJHA.4324@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Why?..how come, Bruce?

"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23svDGS9sJHA.1300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Someone could send you an attachment with a jpg and a virus, but not an embedded picture with a virus.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:O9GTnE9sJHA.3848@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks Bruce

How would you put a file in a message without attaching it? You can insert a picture, but that would not contain a virus.

Why may not a say jpg file inserted into a message not contain a virus when the same jpg file as an attachment may?
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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%234B8E88sJHA.4068@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AVG scans the attachment the moment you try to open it. If you open an attachment with a virus, or Trojan, etc., AVG will alert you very noticeably and most likely tell you that it was caught and you're safe.

How would you put a file in a message without attaching it? You can insert a picture, but that would not contain a virus.

Sorry for repeating my earlier post on the safety on not using e-mail scanning.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Own7H08sJHA.240@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks Bruce.

For clarification...so ref an infected attachment...I would be able to view it ok by opening the e-mail message and then the attachment in the normal way but AVG would ensure it wouldn't infect my pc by scanning the attachment?....would that scanning take place before, during or after opening?...and if it did discover the file was infected what would happen...would it say so?
This will pertain also if the file instead of being attached was inserted into the message text?

As for your last question, why would you forward an attachment to someone if you didn't know what was in it?

...but I may know what was in it.

Turning off e-mail scanning is safe. See:

Yes you sent those to me previously...as per MY e below

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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uxGU7V8sJHA.3928@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Below explains why you do not need e-mail scanning. Your resident protection is the basics of your AV program.

AVG does protect you if you open an infected attachment regardless of e-mail scanning being disabled. Note that your AV program protects your computer from letting a virus in. It does not remove the virus from the attachment and make it safe for others when forwarded. They must rely on their AV program to protect them

As for your last question, why would you forward an attachment to someone if you didn't know what was in it?

Turning off e-mail scanning is safe. See:

Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email:
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm

Turn off email scanning in your antivirus software:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

And this is from Symantec, but applies to all anti-virus programs.

From:
http://snipurl.com/bmf6

Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email Scanning?

Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:OmsUwH8sJHA.4364@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Can you expand -what is my resident real time protection?

So although my AVG program is set to NOT scan incoming e-mail messages AVG does scan any attached files when I open them?

And, if I did forward on a pic without opening and viewing it THEN I could send onto to another an infected file?

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"Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uUs%23rW5sJHA.2532@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well, if you've opened and viewed it, your resident realtime protection will
have scanned it.

"peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:euCx5P5sJHA.2368@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: No, receive an e-mail that has an attachment, say, a jpg file, view it
then
: forward the e-message together with the attachment to another.
:
: "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: news:%23TQGPN4sJHA.4632@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Are you saying that you forward without checking what you are
forwarding?
: > -- : > Ronald Sommer
: >
: > "peejaa" <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > news:e3CfCv3sJHA.248@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >> I know Bruce explained to an earlier message that this is not necessary
: >> (see below)....but is there any chance that I could infect someone else
: >> if I just forward an e-message with an infected attachment ie before
its
: >> been saved to my hard drive?
: >>
: >> ===============================
: >> Leave it off, but............
: >>
: >> Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when you
: >> see
: >> that option. Just unchecking it in the AVG Security Center usually
causes
: >> a
: >> conflict with the Windows Security Center.
: >>
: >> Turning off e-mail scanning is safe. See:
: >>
: >> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption:
: >>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx#EOAAC
: >>
: >> Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email:
: >> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
: >>
: >> Turn off email scanning in your antivirus software:
: >> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
: >>
: >> And this is from Symantec, but applies to all anti-virus programs.
: >>
: >> From:
: >> http://snipurl.com/bmf6
: >>
: >> Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email
: >> Scanning?
: >>
: >> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
: >> that
: >> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
scans
: >> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email
and
: >> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
: >> To
: >> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
: >> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
have
: >> the most recent virus definitions.
: >>
: >>
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