Re: Newsgroup Messages

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Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
"Jake" <Jake@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uxcSlMloHHA.1220@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If this is not the correct forum for this question please redirect
me. I am trying to get a better understanding of how newsgroup messages
are downloaded and handled. I have several different
identities/users on a few different systems that sometimes subscribe
to same groups on the same computer. In one ID for example all the
new messages appear with Re: and maybe on or two will be the
original but most are not. All that is seen are replies and never
the original post.


That could be just a reflection of how old the opening posts are.
E.g. some newsgroups just have discussions under a few Subjects.
In addition it could be a reflection of how frequently the server that
you are connected to flushes its cache.

Thank you for the help. I have learned much in the past few days of working
out this condition. I have decided it must be partly due to a server and am
trying different NG services.


On another ID with the same group the originals are seen
and everything seems normal.


Pick a better server; get better retention policies... ; )


There are other abnormalities like an indication that there are
unread posts but all have been read and none appear new.


That's a common symptom of a news server sending an illogical
"estimate" of how many messages there are to download (e.g. more than are
possible in the range it shows) and OE proving that it can do
arithmetic...


One thread I started can be seen on a group but when the ID is
changed that post does not show on the same group.


Does different ID mean different server too? Then, again, it could
just be a reflection of the different quality of message retention between
two servers.

The different ID in this case is with the same server. This is what is
getting confusing. I can still go to the same group today and see one post
that does not show in an other ID. Also many of the posts within a thread do
not appear which I have verified by going to Google. There they all show
fine and I can tell which ones I miss. This is all one on computer now so I
have been wondering if there is a way to wipe everything clean and start
again. But I am a bit timid about this and don't want to lose everything
related to OE which has happened before.

I have
tried unsubscribing and resubscribing but this condition does not
change. I have unchecked Synchronize to see if this had any effect
but nothing seems to clear this up. I tried reset and downloading
again but still no joy. I tried adding another account with
duplicate settings and all the new posts start with Re: once again
on the new account. I tried compacting and everything I can find but
I am lost as to how to fix this problem. I will be very thankful if
anyone has any idea of what can be done.


Use OE's troubleshooting log for News to check that OE is getting all
that each news server is offering. If you like you can either use a
different news reader or telnet 119 to confirm those observations.

I can see I still need to learn more as what you describe is not familiar.
I know nothing about 'Telnet procedures.


Thank you very much.

Jake


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