Re: Files missing after compact

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steve

"DVD-Newbie" <DVDNewbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:DE015BA9-3D16-4492-92AC-5FA59B502905@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for the link. I like free software. I'll check it out.

Please define the process of storing my messages from my Inbox and Sent to
"local" folders. I've made folders in OE. Are these "local folders"?

Regards,

Steve


"Steve Cochran" wrote:

Glad to hear it.

Whenever you back something up to CD, ALWAYS set it to verify the written
data so you are ensured that the backup was valid.

You might also consider getting my OETool program that works in conjunction
with OEQB to backup with a single button click with 3 layers of redundancy.
See www.oehelp.com/OETool/

Both of those programs are free.

steve

"DVD-Newbie" <DVDNewbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4FB4E44B-301D-4683-8BD3-D5334B11F218@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> The DBXpress worked and I have put the missing messages back into my
> Inbox.
> Thanks for everyone's assistance.
>
> I also realized during this, that my backup procedure is flawed so I'm
> going
> to go work on that now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>
>> The success of DBXpress depends on whether or not the disk clusters >> that
>> contained the messages have been overwritten or not. There is no way >> of
>> knowing that until one runs the program. As others have indicated, if
>> you
>> have no backup, its the only chance you have.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "DVD-Newbie" <DVDNewbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:EE90C6ED-5B08-4A8E-AAEB-8FB8834A00F2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Yes, I'm on XP/SP2. There are no .bak files in my recycle bin, as I
>> > have
>> > CCleaner installed and it cleans my recycle bin at boot up. I >> > didn't
>> > realize
>> > my messages were missing when I shut down last night. No, I haven't
>> > purchased DBXpress, but it sounds like I may need to, to get the
>> > messages.
>> > Before I purchase it, are we fairly confident it will get the >> > missing
>> > messages?
>> >
>> > Question...if I do a manual compact in the future, will the compact
>> > feature
>> > remove messages from my Inbox as it did yesterday, or did this only
>> > happen
>> > because I cancelled it?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Are you running a fully patched XP/SP2? Any BAK files in the >> >> Recycle
>> >> Bin?
>> >>
>> >> Did you use DBXpress in Extract From Disk mode? That is the only
>> >> program,
>> >> and feature of it, that will recover the messages after compacting.
>> >>
>> >> The messages disappeared because you interrupted the compact >> >> process.
>> >> Compacting doesn't put them any place, it only reclaims wasted >> >> space.
>> >>
>> >> Compacting again will not recover the messages.
>> >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen
>> >> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> >> ~IB-CA~
>> >>
>> >> "DVD-Newbie" <DVDNewbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:4D79411A-4181-4DB9-9FFD-7F189E48963F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Thanks for the help, but it didn't recover my missing messages. >> >> > I
>> >> > followed
>> >> > the steps in: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx, but it only
>> >> > brought
>> >> > back
>> >> > the date range of files I already have in my Inbox. Is there any
>> >> > other
>> >> > way
>> >> > to recover my messages? When the compact runs, where does it put
>> >> > the
>> >> > messages? Should I run the compact manually and see if the >> >> > problem
>> >> > gets
>> >> > fixed?
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Steve
>> >> >
>> >> > "PA Bear" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I >> >> >> > clicked
>> >> >> > OK,
>> >> >> > thinking it would do something in the background. It >> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > tied
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 >> >> >> > seconds.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tip: Don't /touch/ the machine until compacting has finished.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Windows version? (Sounds like WinXP SP2)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why it happens:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx >> >> >> (#2
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> #4)
>> >> >> and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (Notes section >> >> >> under
>> >> >> Resolution)
>> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> >> DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater >> >> >> functionality)
>> >> >> http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
>> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> >> Avoiding Such Corruption in Future:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them >> >> >> to
>> >> >> local
>> >> >> folders created for this purpose.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and
>> >> >> frequently
>> >> >> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working >> >> >> offline".
>> >> >> More
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
>> >> >> automatically compacting your message store.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also
>> >> >> cause
>> >> >> such
>> >> >> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
>> >> >> -- >> >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> >> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> >> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> DVD-Newbie wrote:
>> >> >> > OE asked if I wanted to compact my folders yesterday. I >> >> >> > clicked
>> >> >> > OK,
>> >> >> > thinking it would do something in the background. It >> >> >> > completely
>> >> >> > tied
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > PC to the point that changing window views took about 30 >> >> >> > seconds.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > busy with another project so I clicked on the cancel button to
>> >> >> > stop
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > process.
>> >> >> > After reading some of the questions in here, I now realize I
>> >> >> > probably
>> >> >> > shouldn't have cancelled it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Anyway, I'm now trying to find an E-mail receipt for some >> >> >> > plane
>> >> >> > tickets
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > I just realized my Inbox messages from 04/03/07 through >> >> >> > 12/17/06,
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > 12/16/06 through 7/6/06, are missing from my Inbox. I did a >> >> >> > full
>> >> >> > backup
>> >> >> > 2-3
>> >> >> > days ago. Is there a way to recover the messages that are
>> >> >> > missing?
>> >> >> > I've
>> >> >> > read other responses to this type of question, but they appear >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > for a
>> >> >> > folder of messages that is missing. I'm just looking for >> >> >> > certain
>> >> >> > messages.
>> >> >> > Is the recovery process the same?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>


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