Re: Compact messages

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Your message headers show a fully patched version of OE in XP/SP2:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028

If you were missing the last OE patch out, your headers would be:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2905
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2905

So, ii you post using MSNews, we can usually tell.

The update was available prior to being offered at Windows Updates, but anyone that didn't get it has it now if they are fully patched.

As fat as emptying the RB, I have never used that procedure, so I can't say. I use CCleaner.

CCleaner:
http://www.ccleaner.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Gary Walker" <twf@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:dqdQh.2357$H_5.1691@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


I have a one question, and a couple of comments con-
cerning the fix that started that recycle bin "redundancy".

As I recall, prior to my update some time ago, I had
actually read about the update, and had to seek it out
by name/number. Windows update had never offered
that fix during any of my frequent update sessions.

Additionally, I can only claim coincidence here, but
sometime after that update my disk cleanup no longer
would include recycle bin even though selected. The
disk cleanup I'm describing is the Windows Explorer>
properties>disk cleanup procedure. Prior to that .bak
update, the cleanup would empty the recycle bin. After
the .bak update, the recycle bin is left intact. That's ok,
though, as it kinda' makes sense because this could
destroy the .bak retentions.

Lastly, only as a point of curiosity, I've seen a few refer-
ences from Bruce Hagen where he'll describe that a
poster may/will be missing some important service.
The way the comments are phrased, combined with
the thread history, seems to indicate that the poster's
header contains information that can be used to identify
the OE service level. Have I misunderstood?


Thanks,


Gary



"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ekAvddVdHHA.4392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Go to Windows Updates. You are missing at least two that directly affect OE. This is why you don't have the BAK files in your Recycle Bin when you compact. Don't rely on Automatic Updates to download everything.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Bobm0001" <Bobm0001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:9DAA9217-F242-46E3-8945-AE12D70705DA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
msoe.dll 600 2900 2869

"Bruce Hagen" wrote:

Open OE | Help | About. In the box, scroll down to msoe.dll and post the
numbers you see there.

> What do you mean by using my delete file as a garbage pail? Are you
> telling
> me top clean it out more often?

Yes. As I said before:

General precautions for Outlook Express:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

> If I use the OEQB, does it overwrite the info that I had in it > previously?

You can set it to overwrite, or not.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Bobm0001" <Bobm0001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7F024A7E-642C-48BB-896B-8478C4E2ACDF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thanks for your help. I'm getting there.
>
> I don't have the msoe.dll patch. How do I get it? I went into > windows
> update and they can't find it by the number.
>
> Also,. I do not have a program that automatically cleans out the > Recycle
> Bin.
>
> What do you mean by using my delete file as a garbage pail? Are you
> telling
> me top clean it out more often?
>
> If I use the OEQB, does it overwrite the info that I had in it > previously?
>
> Thanks agin. You've been a big help.
>
> "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
>
>> Did you read the Help for OEQB? Did you create the requires folder?
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/oeqb.htm
>>
>> In OE | Help | About......., scroll down to msoe.dll. Are your >> numbers
>> 600.2900.3028? If not, then you're not fully patched and won't find >> BAK
>> folders.
>>
>> Do you have any program that automatically empties the Recycle Bin?
>> -- >> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> ~IB-CA~
>>
>> "Bobm0001" <Bobm0001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:89EAC46C-46D9-40E2-B6E1-27D1152A1856@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Thanks for your advice. I assume I'm fully patched. I have my
>> > computer
>> > set
>> > to automatically update, yet I can't find BAK files in the Recycle >> > Bin.
>> > Also, wshen I try to use OE Quick Backup, I keep getting a message
>> > "Please
>> > select a backup folder before proceding further." I'm embarassed >> > to
>> > say I
>> > don't know how to do this.
>> >
>> > "Bruce Hagen" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why are you keeping messages in a garbage pail? (Deleted Items).
>> >>
>> >> Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
>> >> http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact
>> >>
>> >> Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE >> >> functioning
>> >> well
>> >> and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you >> >> don't.
>> >> When
>> >> you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains >> >> until
>> >> you
>> >> compact.
>> >>
>> >> See:
>> >> www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
>> >>
>> >> With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to >> >> problems
>> >> it
>> >> caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE >> >> closings,
>> >> which
>> >> you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. >> >> See
>> >> this
>> >> for
>> >> more information:
>> >> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact
>> >>
>> >> If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your >> >> dbx
>> >> files
>> >> being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go >> >> awry
>> >> when
>> >> compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. >> >> A
>> >> manual
>> >> compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero >> >> now.
>> >>
>> >> For more info, see the information outlined in red here:
>> >> www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2
>> >>
>> >> To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:
>> >>
>> >> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually >> >> become
>> >> corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined >> >> folders
>> >> for
>> >> storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items >> >> folder
>> >> regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default >> >> folders
>> >> as
>> >> empty as is feasible.
>> >>
>> >> And backup often.
>> >>
>> >> Backup and Restore:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/backup/
>> >>
>> >> http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
>> >>
>> >> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
>> >> -- >> >> Bruce Hagen
>> >> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> >> ~IB-CA~
>> >>
>> >> "Bobm0001" <Bobm0001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:998DEB13-EDC9-4957-8F44-429B77182458@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > About every four or five times I follow the compact messages
>> >> > directions, I
>> >> > lose 1-6 months of messages in either the deleted or send file.
>> >> > Each
>> >> > time,
>> >> > I swear I'll never compact messages again, but OE wears me down >> >> > by
>> >> > forcing
>> >> > me
>> >> > to reject the compacting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can I retreive the lost messages? How do I backup the messages >> >> > so I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > lose them permanently?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>






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