Re: clean up--compacting??
- From: v-wweng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Winfred Weng [MSFT]")
- Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:30:27 GMT
Hi Steve and "PABearMVP",
Thank you for your kind understanding and invaluable experience sharing.
Wish you a Happy New Year!
Thanks & regards,
Winfred Weng
Microsoft Online Partner Support
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>> ...It is my pleasure
>> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
>> their review.
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>How sweet! <eg>
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>"Winfred Weng [MSFT]" wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my
pleasure
>> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
>> their review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product
>> feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft
>> products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as
>> yours is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.
>>
>> Have a good day!
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Winfred Weng
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>
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>> > From: "Steve Cochran" <scochran@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>> > ""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Hi Paul,
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed
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>> > > Our goal is to provide
>> > > a one business day response to all posts.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
>> > > further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
>> > > message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk
space,
>> > > Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few
>> > > minutes."
>> > >
>> > > If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
>> > > feature
>> > > introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
>> > > controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
>> > > Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and
>> > > news message folder. I would explain that like most database
>> > > programs, Outlook Express does not actually remove an item from a
>> > > *.dbx file when you delete a message. Instead it merely tags the item
>> > > for removal at a later time, mainly when you next compact your
>> > > folders. Until then, the deleted message is still occupying disk
>> > > space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform more slowly when
>> > > accessing the *.dbx file.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder,
it
>> > gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space
>> > in the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer
>> > in the folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked
>> > for deletion (and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but
>> > the message then remains in the original folder, so the space is still
>> > there again. When you delete from the deleted items folder, then the
>> > messages again are marked for deletion, but they are still in the
>> > folder.
>> >
>> > As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
>> > reclaimed, and OE will then function more efficiently.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
>> > such, we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or
>> > some of their messages due to this problem.
>> >
>> > I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when
a
>> > user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the
latter
>> > part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
>> >
>> > It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we
>> > could reference for the users.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following
>> > > steps to
>> > > modify the corresponding registry key:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Click Start -> Run
>> > > 2. Type regedit and click OK
>> > > 3. Locate the following registry key:
>> > >
>> > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity
>> > > GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
>> > >
>> > > 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
>> > > 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
>> > > value to 0.
>> > >
>> > > In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of
>> > > opening/closing Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
>> > >
>> > > At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express
data
>> > > periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
>> > > compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
>> > > following Microsoft KB article:
>> > >
>> > > 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
>> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
>> > >
>> > > I hope the information above is helpful.
>> > >
>> > > If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
>> > >
>> > > Have a good day!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks & regards,
>> > >
>> > > Winfred Weng
>> > > Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> > >
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>> > > > From: "Tri-Pacer" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> > > > Subject: clean up--compacting??
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>> > > > With no action on my part, outlook express has started going
>> > > > through a lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut
>> > > > down the computer or exit OE.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is a major pain.
>> > > >
>> > > > How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks much
>> > > >
>> > > > Paul Anton
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