Re: clean up--compacting??
- From: "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:42:49 -0500
...It is my pleasure to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for their review.
How sweet! <eg>
"Winfred Weng [MSFT]" wrote:
Hi Steve,
Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my pleasure to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for their review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as yours is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.
Have a good day!
Thanks & regards,
Winfred Weng Microsoft Online Partner Support
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> ""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed
> > newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals.
> > Our goal is to provide
> > a one business day response to all posts.
> >
> > Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
> > further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
> > message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
> > Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few
> > minutes."
> >
> > If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
> > feature
> > introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
> > controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
> > Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and
> > news message folder. I would explain that like most database
> > programs, Outlook Express does not actually remove an item from a
> > *.dbx file when you delete a message. Instead it merely tags the item
> > for removal at a later time, mainly when you next compact your
> > folders. Until then, the deleted message is still occupying disk
> > space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform more slowly when
> > accessing the *.dbx file.
> >
>
> Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder, it
> gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space
> in the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer
> in the folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked
> for deletion (and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but
> the message then remains in the original folder, so the space is still
> there again. When you delete from the deleted items folder, then the
> messages again are marked for deletion, but they are still in the
> folder.
>
> As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
> reclaimed, and OE will then function more efficiently.
>
> Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
> such, we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or
> some of their messages due to this problem.
>
> I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when a
> user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the latter
> part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
>
> It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we
> could reference for the users.
>
> cheers,
>
> steve
>
>
>
> > If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following
> > steps to
> > modify the corresponding registry key:
> >
> > 1. Click Start -> Run
> > 2. Type regedit and click OK
> > 3. Locate the following registry key:
> >
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity
> > GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
> >
> > 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
> > 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
> > value to 0.
> >
> > In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of
> > opening/closing Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
> >
> > At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
> > periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
> > compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
> > following Microsoft KB article:
> >
> > 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
> >
> > I hope the information above is helpful.
> >
> > If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
> >
> > Have a good day!
> >
> > Thanks & regards,
> >
> > Winfred Weng
> > Microsoft Online Partner Support
> >
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> > > With no action on my part, outlook express has started going
> > > through a lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut
> > > down the computer or exit OE.
> > >
> > > This is a major pain.
> > >
> > > How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
> > >
> > > Thanks much
> > >
> > > Paul Anton
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