Re: Can't send email, can recieve with router
- From: "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:29:22 -0500
I found an interesting one Jim, perhaps you had already seen it? Does sound
like some of the recent problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314825
Charlie
"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23hvvTcy2FHA.1700@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Is the router a LinkSys router? If so, see if the info at this link
> helps:
> http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=671&p_created=1084219482&p_sid=-Tlgw5Th&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0xMzMxJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9Nw**&p_li=&p_topview=1
>
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F9F51EF1-4AE3-4D23-B2D8-1171988A62D6
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> Thanks.
>
>
> "JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Oa2gQCu2FHA.3188@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> OK, so I turned it off, and yes it solves the email sending problem, but
>> something is still amiss. First of all my OE email sending problem was
>> strictly limited to those accounts that are from my ISP. Gmail or
>> Hotmail for example were never affected. Then the problem still exists
>> that with the router I can't access the internet based mail of my ISP.
>>
>> And also I'm not yet convinced of what you say about the antivirus
>> scanner. Newer viruses you don't even have to open anymore for them to
>> infect the computer, and many are cleverly disguised as letters from your
>> friends that you have no reason not to open. PC-CIllin, like any pop3
>> scanner will catch them as they;re downloading, whereas if your pop3
>> scanner is off, they will only catch it once you open up the mail.
>>
>> Sure the pop3 scanner doesn't catch web viruses, but it also has a web
>> virus filter for that/
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23P12ySq2FHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Unfortunately the "Extra" safety is a sales pitch from the vendors -
>>> commonly referred to as snake oil.
>>>
>>> Any modern AV application will scan files if you try to open them and
>>> usually when you save them, and email scanning does nothing at all to
>>> protect you from other forms of viruses such as web or network based.
>>>
>>> If the AV has a definition for the virus it will catch it, if it does
>>> not have a definition it doesn't matter whether emails are scanned or
>>> not the AV will not see it except by heuristics and that's the best
>>> hope.
>>>
>>> In any case your own common sense is obviously not lacking so you are
>>> already scanning email :)
>>>
>>> Norton McAfee and AVG have ALL caused me problems with OE, and I use AVG
>>> but without the email scanning. The other MVPs will tell you the same
>>> thing, so many problems that are fixed immediately as soon as it's
>>> turned off. Seems like it works on some systems for some people but
>>> causes nothing but trouble for many, and it always "Looks like" an OE
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> "JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uoiRZOp2FHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Hmm - but I find it hard to believe that this isn't protecting me from
>>>> viruses. It scans all incoming pop3 mail before I get it. The few
>>>> times virus have been found they were detected by email scanning. Yess
>>>> it uses localhost/username format. I will reset it manually and see if
>>>> it doesn anything, but I don't feel safe not having it on.
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e4xlbbn2FHA.2268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Aha, well I suggest that you definitely turn off email scanning and
>>>>> give it a try without the AV running at all then because timing
>>>>> problems may be cumulative I think. I don't know what method PC Cillin
>>>>> uses, what are the server names in your account details? Are they the
>>>>> same as your email settings used to be or have they changed to
>>>>> something like localhost or 127.0.0.1 ? If the latter turn of scanning
>>>>> and see if they change back. If they do not you can manually change
>>>>> them for a test run and see if direct to the server helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> (It could be that although you turned the scanning off it did not
>>>>> actually take effect until maybe reboot or something so you never
>>>>> really had it turned off)
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously email scanning turns out to be a huge problem for many folks
>>>>> but it almost always "Looks like" something else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> "JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2382BgPX2FHA.3328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> It's never worked properly with the router. I updated the firmware a
>>>>>> couple of months ago, but no change. I'll try again, maybe there's
>>>>>> a more recent one (they don't tell you which revision it is on the
>>>>>> web site!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eDjIxTV2FHA.4004@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Have you tried the upgrade firmware option with the router. There
>>>>>>> was an upgrade last year sometime I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Easiest method it using the "Management tool" software that should
>>>>>>> have come on the CD with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could also try a reset to factory defaults but make sure you
>>>>>>> have the manual / password before doing that :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has it ever worked properly with the router or has there always been
>>>>>>> a problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e4qC4MR2FHA.3716@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Thanks - the problem isn't exactly what's listed on that microsoft
>>>>>>>> link. I just can't really send anything, not just things with
>>>>>>>> attatchments. The email scanning shouldn't be the issue, since when
>>>>>>>> I don't use the router I can send things just fine. I tried it
>>>>>>>> anyways and it doesn't do anything. I use PC-CIllin. I guess I'll
>>>>>>>> try changing the registry...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23xCrHBR2FHA.2440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> Windows version?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MTU settings are changed in the Registry. See:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Outlook or Outlook Express hangs after you send an e-mail
>>>>>>>>> message...
>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315008
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "NOTE: If the issue continues to occur, repeat the preceding
>>>>>>>>> steps, but type a different MTU value between 1,454 and 576. When
>>>>>>>>> you test additional MTU values, try 576 and then increase the
>>>>>>>>> number to 600. If setting the MTU value to 600 does not resolve
>>>>>>>>> the issue, increase the value by 100 until you reach 1,400. If the
>>>>>>>>> issue continues to occur, try 1,454 and then stop. When you are
>>>>>>>>> finished, if the issue is still not resolved, change the MTU value
>>>>>>>>> back to 576."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But before you go messing with MTU, try Disabling email scanning
>>>>>>>>> by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional
>>>>>>>>> protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <paste>
>>>>>>>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against
>>>>>>>>> viruses that are distributed as email attachments. Norton
>>>>>>>>> AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to
>>>>>>>>> your hard drive, including email and email attachments. Email
>>>>>>>>> Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To make sure that
>>>>>>>>> Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>>>>>>>>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that
>>>>>>>>> you have the most recent virus definitions.
>>>>>>>>> </paste>
>>>>>>>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using
>>>>>>>>> OL and OE
>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813514
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JHaggis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi - when I'm connected via my Microsoft MN-700 router, I can
>>>>>>>>>> recieve
>>>>>>>>>> emails, but not send them (unless they're short text only
>>>>>>>>>> messages). When
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not using the router everything is fine. No idea what's
>>>>>>>>>> causing this.
>>>>>>>>>> Searched on google and found people talking about chinging their
>>>>>>>>>> MTU
>>>>>>>>>> settings, but I can't do that with this router. Also heard talk
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> "port 25" but have no idea how to cahnge that.
>>>>>>>>>
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