Re: Can't send email, can recieve with router

Is the router a LinkSys router?  If so, see if the info at this link helps:
http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=671&p_created=1084219482&p_sid=-Tlgw5Th&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0xMzMxJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9Nw**&p_li=&p_topview=1

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"JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:Oa2gQCu2FHA.3188@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
OK, so I turned it off, and yes it solves the email sending problem, but something is still amiss. First of all my OE email sending problem was strictly limited to those accounts that are from my ISP. Gmail or Hotmail for example were never affected. Then the problem still exists that with the router I can't access the internet based mail of my ISP.

And also I'm not yet convinced of what you say about the antivirus scanner. Newer viruses you don't even have to open anymore for them to infect the computer, and many are cleverly disguised as letters from your friends that you have no reason not to open. PC-CIllin, like any pop3 scanner will catch them as they;re downloading, whereas if your pop3 scanner is off, they will only catch it once you open up the mail.

Sure the pop3 scanner doesn't catch web viruses, but it also has a web virus filter for that/

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23P12ySq2FHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Unfortunately the "Extra" safety is a sales pitch from the vendors - commonly referred to as snake oil.

Any modern AV application will scan files if you try to open them and usually when you save them, and email scanning does nothing at all to protect you from other forms of viruses such as web or network based.

If the AV has a definition for the virus it will catch it, if it does not have a definition it doesn't matter whether emails are scanned or not the AV will not see it except by heuristics and that's the best hope.

In any case your own common sense is obviously not lacking so you are already scanning email :)

Norton McAfee and AVG have ALL caused me problems with OE, and I use AVG but without the email scanning. The other MVPs will tell you the same thing, so many problems that are fixed immediately as soon as it's turned off. Seems like it works on some systems for some people but causes nothing but trouble for many, and it always "Looks like" an OE problem.

Charlie

"JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uoiRZOp2FHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hmm - but I find it hard to believe that this isn't protecting me from viruses. It scans all incoming pop3 mail before I get it. The few times virus have been found they were detected by email scanning. Yess it uses localhost/username format. I will reset it manually and see if it doesn anything, but I don't feel safe not having it on.

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:e4xlbbn2FHA.2268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Aha, well I suggest that you definitely turn off email scanning and give it a try without the AV running at all then because timing problems may be cumulative I think. I don't know what method PC Cillin uses, what are the server names in your account details? Are they the same as your email settings used to be or have they changed to something like localhost or 127.0.0.1 ? If the latter turn of scanning and see if they change back. If they do not you can manually change them for a test run and see if direct to the server helps.

(It could be that although you turned the scanning off it did not actually take effect until maybe reboot or something so you never really had it turned off)

Seriously email scanning turns out to be a huge problem for many folks but it almost always "Looks like" something else.

Charlie

"JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%2382BgPX2FHA.3328@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It's never worked properly with the router. I updated the firmware a couple of months ago, but no change. I'll try again, maybe there's a more recent one (they don't tell you which revision it is on the web site!)

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eDjIxTV2FHA.4004@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Have you tried the upgrade firmware option with the router. There was an upgrade last year sometime I think.

Easiest method it using the "Management tool" software that should have come on the CD with it.

You could also try a reset to factory defaults but make sure you have the manual / password before doing that :)

Has it ever worked properly with the router or has there always been a problem?

Charlie

"JHaggis" <johnnyhaggis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:e4qC4MR2FHA.3716@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks - the problem isn't exactly what's listed on that microsoft link. I just can't really send anything, not just things with attatchments. The email scanning shouldn't be the issue, since when I don't use the router I can send things just fine. I tried it anyways and it doesn't do anything. I use PC-CIllin. I guess I'll try changing the registry...

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23xCrHBR2FHA.2440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Windows version?

MTU settings are changed in the Registry.  See:

Outlook or Outlook Express hangs after you send an e-mail message...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315008

"NOTE: If the issue continues to occur, repeat the preceding steps, but type a different MTU value between 1,454 and 576. When you test additional MTU values, try 576 and then increase the number to 600. If setting the MTU value to 600 does not resolve the issue, increase the value by 100 until you reach 1,400. If the issue continues to occur, try 1,454 and then stop. When you are finished, if the issue is still not resolved, change the MTU value back to 576."

But before you go messing with MTU, try Disabling email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<paste>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus definitions.
</paste>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106

Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using OL and OE
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813514
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


JHaggis wrote:
Hi - when I'm connected via my Microsoft MN-700 router, I can recieve
emails, but not send them (unless they're short text only messages). When
I'm not using the router everything is fine. No idea what's causing this.
Searched on google and found people talking about chinging their MTU
settings, but I can't do that with this router. Also heard talk about
"port 25" but have no idea how to cahnge that. 
















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