Re: Can't copy "Message Source" area ?

Thank you all, Nancy, Steve, Robert,

You have given so much good information. Forwarding the full message to ISP
should be convenient for customers( I recommend that and ISP should be able
to handle the large Spam mails), and I it's also useful for some ISPs to
analyze the contents of Spam email, to improve intelligent Spam filter.

Thanks everyone.

Sincerely,

Sean Wu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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| From: "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| Subject: Re: Can't copy "Message Source" area ?
| Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 07:46:28 -0400
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| "Nancy" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:%238tsUIAsFHA.2064@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| ...
| >> Ctrl-F3 should be the equivalent of Alt-Enter,Ctrl-Tab,Alt-M
| >> which it appears you claim that you can still do.
|
| > The Atl-Enter worked, the Crtl-Tab worked but the Alt-M did
| > not work. It didn't bring up the message source.
|
| Ah. Sorry, I misinterpreted what you wrote earlier.
| You were saying that you knew that that is what you should be able to do
| to capture headers but were unable to for some reason.
|
| So, there is definitely something wrong with your OE or your system,
| not your keyboard. BTW the above method does not require that
| the message be open in either the Preview pane or in a separate message
| window, discounting Steve's caveat for Ctrl-F3 use.
|
|
| > Question:
| > Does one really need to copy/past the "message source" info
| > into the spam for the ISP to block them?
|
| Yes. The people designing the filters want to see the full headers
| on your message to see the maximum number of clues about its origin.
|
| BTW have you misunderstood Sean Wu's second tip about using
| Forward as Attachment? If your ISP would accept that it would be
| the simplest method of notifying them of your spam, even easier than
| using either of the methods of copying just a message's headers.
| E.g. while the message is selected in the list press Menu,w, address
| the E-mail and send it.
|
| A possible problem with that could be the fact that that copies the entire
| message including the spam content so depending on your encoding
| method if you sent it as is it might be blocked as spam itself. E.g. if
you
| were going to send it attached to an E-mail and your encoding method
| for E-mail is Quoted Printable the attachment would be readable by
| scanning your message's source too. That's why just the headers may be
| preferred by your ISP. Size of message may be another reason.
| BTW instead of saving the file as Sean suggested you could drag the
| attachment to a Notepad window for viewing and extracting just the headers
| from it in a similar manner. That at least would avoid the need to
create
| temporary files to work from.
|
| I would ask though. If the message is small and they don't filter
wherever
| it is that you have to send your spam reports they may be satisfied just
| getting it directly from a Forward as Attachment command. That would be
| much easier for you.
|
|
| >
| > And I think you and Steve are right, maybe there is something
| > wrong with the F3 key. It's an old laptop.
|
| No. You have proved that your symptom is independent of the use of
| either a Ctrl- key or F3 or both together.
|
|
| FWIW I just tried monitoring the Alt-M action with RegMon and FileMon
| to try to find out which .dll would be involved but nothing was recorded.
| I guess it is all optimized so if there is any chance for those
diagnostics
| to help it would have to be when msimn.exe is started, if then.
| A better tool would be one which traces windows messages but I don't
| have one installed on this partition. Perhaps Steve or one of the others
| could help more on that tack.
|
|
| HTH
|
| Robert
| ---
|
|
|

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