Re: garbled asian text
- From: Paul Gorodyansky <paulgor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:47:40 -0700
Hello!
Roland Bierlein wrote:
>
> Buenos dМas: *Paul Gorodyansky* escribiС:
> > Roland Bierlein wrote:
>
> >> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/oe_e.htm.
>
> >> Excellent page, thanks for the hint. Towards the bottom it says:
> >>
> >> ,----
> >> | Outlook Express version 5.5 and higher has the following problem
> >> | (earlier versions didn't have such problem) with Cyrillic (only
> >> | under Windows 95/98/ME. There is no such problem under Unicode-based
> >> | Windows NT 4.0/2000/XP):
> >> |
> >> | In the environment described below, Cyrillic is not readable in the
> >> | list of Subjects. Here is a description of the environment where this
> >> | OE 5.5 problem occurs:
> >> |
> >> | Windows 95/98/ME where Cyrillic is not a main system code page.
> >> `----
>
> >> This "no such problem under Windows XP" may not be fully true, as we see
> >> in this thread.
>
> > :-) At least for Cyrillic it _is_ true...
>
> Hm, hm, I had checked it by visiting this newsgroup:
> news:microsoft.public.ru.russian.dotnet
> There are messages correctly MIME encoded using Windows-1251 or UTF-8,
> which look perfectly right in the preview pane but not in the message
> list.
It's probably my mistake, I needed to write that sentense in the
instruction more precise (I will modify it), it should sound like this:
===========================
> In the environment described below, Cyrillic is not readable in the
> list of Subjects.
---new---:
That is, a KOI8-R Subject is NOT readable in the list but it WAS
selected
as Default. In other environments, as described earlier, the Subjects
in the Default encoding are readable in the List Of Subjects.
==========================
See? It's what I meant. So because I work with Windows 2000 right now
and not on 95/98/ME, I _can_ read KOI*-R Subjects in the List
in microsoft.public.ru.russian.dotnet or in
microsoft.public.ru.russian.windows
because I made earlier KOI8-R my Default.
Now - and I will update my instruion today with that too -
in my instruction I wrote that ONLY Subjects with the encoding
that was selected as Default are readable in the List because
OE builds the list only _once_ using that Default.
But there is 1 exception to that:
- if Subject is in different encoding, say KOI8-R is my Default
but message is in Windows-1251 Cyrillic encoding, it _can_
be readable - *if* Subect text itself is MIME-coded, that is
encoding name is in the line itself (you can see that in
Properties/Details). Then, during the List building, OE
acknowledges the fact that encoding _is_ known and
later will show such Subject Ok.
Unfortunately (OE bug) it does not work for UTF-8 messages -
even if its Subject is MIME-coded, it's still shown as
question marks - ???? - in my List
> Could it be that it has only been fixed in Russian
> (or Eastern-European) versions of Windows?
No, my instruction (and my own machines) are all 'untouched English'
machines.
--
Regards,
Paul Gorodyansky
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://RusWin.net
Russian On-screen Keyboard: http://Kbd.RusWin.net
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