Re: Newsgroups with large number of posts hangs OE



"drdug" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for your reply.  I guess I wasn't clear enough in my original post.
I CAN d/l all the headers, but it stalls OE for up 30 minutes or more.  In
fact the problem isn't on the initial download of headers...it is on
subsequent visits to the group after the initial download of a few hundred
thousand headers.  OE loads the stored ones, which understandably takes
varying amounts of time to reach 100%.

Then comes the new headers. This is what takes forever. Sometimes OE gives
a "(Not Responding)" in the title bar, other times it doesn't. And it
doesn't matter if there are only a few hundred headers to add or several
thousand. It's almost as if it is comparing every single stored header on
my computer with the server, and doing so VERY SLOWLY before d/l any new
headers.


But I have noticed that if I go to Task Manager, it will say "not
responding" even when the title bar doesn't. Anyway, not only does OE halt
for a while, my whole system often slows to a crawl. Interestingly, there
isn't undo HDD activity, which I would expect with an entire system slowdown
like that. Nor does Task Manager show any one process taking up the CPU
resources.


As far as the diagnostic suggestions, I fear you are casting pearls before
swine, as I haven't attained that level of geekdom yet, and don't know what
to make of the netstat results. I did try it though, hoping it would tell
me something I could understand.





"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:OL15wcXQFHA.3196@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"drdug" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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...
if you d/l only part of the headers, you may be
missing something you want to d/l.
...

The subject of this thread is a complaint about being unable
to download *all* headers.   I have shown you that you could download
*all* headers provided you are willing to do it in pieces.

BTW have you tried diagnosing your "not responding" symptom?
E.g. try using netstat -ps tcp 5 to see if anything is actually still
going on underneath. As long as something is still happening
you can ignore the symptom and expect that eventually a complete
response to your request will be given.


However, depending on how your server  packages such a response,
I wouldn't be surprised if the server is at fault and not OE.
For that particular response the troubleshooting log will be inadequate
to help you understand the symptom.   For it you would need to invoke
a  TCP  packet trace to capture the full  NNTP protocol.


Robert ---

One thing I do is to make make a rule to delete all messages over ## days old and apply it to the newsgroup before compacting.


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