Re: OE & Yahoo Mail

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Date: 01/03/05


Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 04:39:31 -0500

Vanguard,
1. I have no understanding of "UIDL", or its purpose in YPops. But when I see it in the download status window for YPops, as indicated in your example at (http://snipurl.com/bpcq). I have found that there is a corrupted message that is blocking the download, and I need to go through Yahoo's webmail, and delete that message. Then downloading proceeds normally into OE. I receive mail from 4 yahoo accts on my PC, and my wife receives mail on 2 accts on her laptop connected wirelessly.

2. I also is a SPAM filter program called PopFile. It uses Port 110 for incoming mail, which causes me to have to use Port 123 for YPops, on the Yahoo Mail acct's Advance tab i still have it set to 110.

So on the Yahoo MailAcct> Properties> Server tab Incoming Server UserID, I use:
127.0.0.1:123:YahooUserID instead of 127.0.0.1:110:YahooUserID

For my Comcast acct I use:
mail.comcast.net:ComcastUserID

Basically Pop3.Server.Name:UserID

So you may need to tweak your filtering programs, to get YPops to work as desired, if it is possible.

3. You may still have a timeout problem, if you are polling 2 or more Yahoo accts, one after the other. If you have other POP3 accts, try altering the names of the Yahoo accts, so that they are separated from each other, in the Mail acct tab. It appears that this can be done in OE6, which seemed "hit or miss", in earlier versions, of OE.

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Reply:
Increasing the server timeout setting never helped.  The problems could 
be illustrated using test e-mails of just a couple kilobytes in size 
(i.e., just a simply "testing" in the subject and body).  Also, if the 
timeout were set to 5 minutes, the errors were occurring within a few 
seconds if not immediately of attempting a mail poll through YahooPOPs. 
Version 0.5 still has problems but version 0.6 became unusable to me 
even with effectively disabling the cookie caching and attempt to 
emulate persistent mail session.
Be prepared for YahooPOPs to go unresponsive and you'll have to reload 
it.  Be prepared for popups asking for the correct username and password 
although they are correct.  POP3 only reports 2 errors, +OK and -ERR, so 
the e-mail client really can't tell what went wrong during 
authentication, and Outlook [Express] simply guesses the wrong username 
or password was used.  I noticed that YahooPOPs has more authentication 
problems when using MD5 to secure the login credentials than when it 
uses HTTPS.
YahooPOPs is great for accessing freebie Yahoo accounts with POP3 e-mail 
clients, but it is nowhere as stable or reliable as using POP3 itself. 
I've used YahooPOPs for about a year, I continue to use it despite its 
faults and flakiness, yet periodically I review my e-mail setup to see 
if I can do better and get rid of YahooPOPs.  I would've switched to 
Gmail because of their new POP3 and SMTP service but it requires SSL 
(and my e-mail notifiers and anti-spam products don't support SSL 
although I can use sTunnel to give me SSL access), and I've discovered a 
nasty bug if you do a headers-only mail poll (http://snipurl.com/bpcq). 
So I couldn't get rid of YahooPOPs and switch to Gmail because Gmail's 
POP3 service is screwed up.  So I used YahooPOPs but I keep looking for 
a better solution - and a free one although I might eventually have to 
bite the bullet on paying for reliable service.
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