Re: webbased newsreader
From: Robert Aldwinckle (robald_at_techemail.com)
Date: 12/21/04
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:43:40 -0500
"Sven Berg" <bergmaus@gmx.de> wrote in message news:237cc3b3.0412201156.45a2813a@posting.google.com...
> Where do I find instructions of how to do a boolean search "x OR y OR
> z" in http://communities2.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
> ? Its help section does not explain. Or is there an alternative
> newsportal as up-to-date as this one (*not* google with its delay of
> several hours), where I could do so?
>
> Thanks for referring me to the right place, Sven
I'm not sure that even Google Groups is doing OR correctly any more.
(DejaNews once had a bug with OR perhaps Google Groups has
reintroduced it. <g>)
Unfortunately the Microsoft Community newsgroups only does
implicit AND. There is no explicit Boolean syntax, in particular
no OR and no NOT.
If you can use an NNTP client (such as Outlook Express)
you could get access to all microsoft newsgroups via this server:
Note: the news prefix is a special OE only syntax which allows
you to create an automatic account with a news server. To post
with it you will want to first do some personalizing in the Properties
dialog.
So, if you know of a news reader which is capable of understanding
Boolean expressions or at least Regular Expressions while
searching just use that server name however the news reader requires
it to be used.
Unfortunately, OE's Find dialog deals only with exact string searching
(e.g it is not capable of even AND logic). However, since in order to
do any searching at all you have to download the messages, what you
could do is extract all the messages and then use whatever general
purpose file search you have (such as grep).
Actually by using some of OE's other features it is possible to do
more than just exact string searches but it is not very convenient.
For example, to do AND searches what you could do is use the
Message Flag feature and then a second pass only on messages
which had been Flagged as a result of the first pass. (Note that there
is nothing automatic about using Flag, you select a message you want
to flag and mark it; similarly when you need to unflag a message you
have to select the message and unmark it.)
To do OR searches you could also use Flag but instead of restricting
your subsequent searches to flagged messages you would just flag all
messages which Find returned and then only use Flag in a final pass
to return all messages which had been flagged by all the passes.
(I think this is probably harder to describe than to see done.
It would actually be simpler to manage than the AND case especially
for expressions with more than two terms.)
Another way to do Boolean searching would be to use the Edit Copy to Folder...
function. Unfortunately I think that in the case of building an OR result
messages which also satisfied AND conditions with the same terms
would be duplicates.
HTH
Robert Aldwinckle
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