Re: Free Hotmail in OE send ability going away in April 2005 and my SMTP port 25 is blocked.
From: N. Miller (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 10/08/04
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 02:23:13 -0700
In article <1097219078.446845.318540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, tomaddr
says...
> Hotmail free usage with OE ends April 2005; thus I need a new way to
> send emails with OE.
> I am currently using OE to send email using free Hotmail. I use Yahoo
> Australia POP3 to receive email. I use an ISP (Juno) that blocks SMTP
> port 25. I also use an old release of Juno that uses a proprietory
> software program to send and receive email (Juno POP3 works with OE ...
> not SMTP). I do not care to use the Juno email software. When I do, it
> unconditionally loads advertisements to my PC. Not acceptable!
In any case, Juno free POP3 access well end on Dec. 1, 2004.
> I know of two options:
> 1) Netscape - has a free sendmail
Netscape Web Mail has free access to their SMTP server; but 'sendmail' is a
Unix/Linux MTA program, and not a part of Netscape.
> ...but, I prefer not to use Netscape.
> It's future existence seems a bit iffy (?) and I do not beleive (Open
> Source) Thunderbird (Similar, but better email software than Netscape
> Mail) provides the free outgoing email facility.
The Netscape mail program and Thunderbird have the same SMTP mail
capabilities. All that the Netscape mail client has extra is the proprietary
access protocols for use with the Netscape Web mail account in IMAP/SMTP
configuration.
> 2) Using a different SMTP port with OE. I trialed SMTPPORT (Facility
> for using alternate SMTP port using their SMTP server to redirect
> outgoing emails) last week and when I did Juno started acting strange.
> Juno is the most stable of about 12 ISPs I have trialed. This behaviour
> was way weird for Juno. A day or so after I stopped testing on the
> alternate port with the trial, Juno started acting normal again. If I
> decide to use an alternate SMTP port, I plan to utilize the facilities
> of Fastmail. It appears to work with OE just fine. Anyone know of
> problems with Fastmail? It is less expensive than other alternate SMTP
> port facilities, I have found.
If using an alternate port is causing problems with Juno, then it isn't
really a viable options.
> Anyone know of another alternative ?
> There are many advantages of Juno dial-up that I have not seen at other
> ISPs. I use it from 12 to 16 hours a day. Many unlimited account ISPs
> will not allow that many hours. And none match the $3 per month charge.
> Thus, I need to resolve the email SMTP problem without changing the
> ISP.
> What a mess! I currently use 6 Hotmail accounts in OE. They are all 98%
> SPAM and Virus free. I can deal with the incoming conversion by
> switching to Yahoo POP3 disposable addresses; but, sure could use some
> advice on the outgoing problem. Would prefer keeping OE (if I find a
> fix for the above mentioned OE problem).
You want to keep using MSOE to send email with the SMTP client. You have an
ISP that blocks port 25 out, and becomes unreliable when using a relay
service on an alternate port.
You really only have two options: Netscape, or a relay service with access
on alternate ports. You have ruled them both out. I am afraid that you are
stuck with using Juno's SMTP service.
P.S. I feel like Rip van Winkle. When I went to sleep, "trial" was just a
noun; But when I woke up, it had become a verb, as well.
-- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
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