Re: Microsoft to charge for Hotmail w/ OE - Please DON'T!!
From: Vanguardx (see_signature)
Date: 09/28/04
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:58:46 -0500
"keeps99" <keeps99@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in news:D1D72E13-0333-43ED-BF76-A47909F29DEF@microsoft.com:
> Microsoft has announced they will start charging extra to allow users
> to use Outlook and Outlook Express with Hotmail Accounts. Please,
> Don't Do it! I like saving my messages off and keeping them offline.
> Offline, I have every email I have sent or received in the last 4
> years... This is wrong - there must be some way to get around it -
> there must be another solution!! PLEASE! Please listen to your user
> community. User's Unite. Voice your opinion!!
>
>
> News Item Follows:
>
> Microsoft Adds New Hotmail Fee
>
> To curb spam, users will be charged for accessing their e-mail via
> Outlook.
>
> Joris Evers, IDG News Service
> Monday, September 27, 2004
> Microsoft will start charging for a Hotmail feature that allows users
> of the Web-based e-mail service to access their e-mail using the
> Outlook e-mail client.
>
>
> Microsoft is making the move not to increase the number of paying
> Hotmail users but because the feature is being abused by senders of
> spam, says Brooke Richardson, lead product manager for MSN at
> Microsoft.
>
> "Essentially what spammers do is create scripts so they can rapid-fire
> e-mail from Outlook or Outlook Express and pop off a hundred e-mails
> from each of those Hotmail accounts in rapid succession," Richardson
> says. "On certain days we have seen tens of thousands of Hotmail
> accounts set up and spamming in this matter."
>
> To prevent abuse of the feature, Microsoft will stop making it
> available to new users of free Hotmail and MSN mail accounts starting
> this week. Current users can continue to use the feature but will be
> asked to become Hotmail subscribers over the coming months. By April
> next year, the feature will no longer be available for free,
> Richardson says.
>
> The Hotmail and MSN mail feature is known as WebDAV, after the
> Web-based Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) protocol that
> enables it. It is enabled on about 5 percent, or 9.4 million, of the
> 187 million active Hotmail accounts, according to Richardson.
>
>
> For the Greater Good?
> While the decision to make the link with Outlook or Outlook Express a
> paid service won't be welcome news to some users, Microsoft had to
> take the step "for greater good" of the Hotmail and e-mail community,
> Richardson says.
>
> Furthermore, rival Web-based e-mail providers such as Yahoo already
> charge for similar functionality, she says.
>
> Other actions that Microsoft has taken to prevent abuse of Hotmail by
> senders of spam include a limit on outgoing messages of 100 per day
> on free accounts and an extra validation requirement when signing up
> for an account, Richardson says. "We do a lot of stuff in terms of
> understanding the characteristics of spammers so we can watch for
> them and shut them down when we see them," she says.
>
> Users who want to use WebDAV to link their Hotmail or MSN mail to an
> Outlook can subscribe to Hotmail Plus, which also offers 2GB of
> e-mail space and an account that doesn't expire, for $19.95 per year,
> or to MSN Premium for $99.95 a year.
And yet if you read
http://news.com.com/Hotmail+to+wean+users+from+free+export+tool/2100-1038_3-5381740.html
then it says you will continue having WebDAV access (via Outlook
[Express]) until March or April of 2005. So you have a few months
still. Time to find someone else, like use a freebie Yahoo Mail account
and use YahooPOPs to access it. "POP Goes the GMail" is another similar
HTTP-to-POP3 proxy for use with GMail. I haven't used GMail so I cannot
comment on it, and probably won't use GMail since Yahoo upped its quota
on freebie accounts to 100MB and I didn't even have a problem with just
6MB because the account was continually emptied by using YahooPops.
There is no way to create a new Yahoo Mail account using YahooPOPs. You
could use Hotmail Popper to provide POP3 access to a freebie Hotmail
account, and it also will not let you use it to create new accounts.
With Yahoo Mail and Hotmail, you have to use the web interface to open a
new account which requires you enter the graphical text string generated
during the signup. So while you will lose HTTP/WebDAV access via
Outlook [Express] to freebie Hotmail accounts, you could still use
Hotmail Popper. Outlook [Express] has always had problems polling
multiple HTTP accounts which doesn't occur when using Hotmail Popper
(since all Hotmail accounts get aggregated into the Inbox instead of
into their own separate message stores, and which means you can then use
rules against those messages). Alas, Hotmail Popper is no longer free
(and why I dumped it and went with YahooPOPs against a Yahoo Mail
account).
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