Re: Deletion of Newgroup Message Headers

From: SafetyMan (safetyman2010_at_comcast.net)
Date: 09/11/04


Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:43:28 GMT

I'm sorry, I must be mixing my terms. I am not actually saving them to to my
desktop. I am connecting to newsgroup, viewing the headers, selecting the
messages I want to download, and "synchronizing" the newsgroup, downloading
the specified messages/images/vid clips. If I do not save the attachments to
my hard drive (I have them in the OE .dbx file because it is a large file,
currently 645+Kb, and growing until I perform the maintenance to delete
them.) I cannot even "see" them in the message list the next day. I know
they are on my computer, I put them there; well, I at least spent the time
to put them there. It is as if my OE is performing maintenance I am not
asking it to do. I see the messages when I first boot up the program, but
befor I can do anything, they disappear. I can then view any new headers
posted "today." So, the problem is on my end, not the news server.

Is that any clearer?

Safetyman

"Jim Pickering" <jimp@mvps.0rg> wrote in message
news:uhRlW4BmEHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> That doesn't answer two important questions. You stated that:
> 1. You were saving the messages to your Desktop. I asked if they were
> saved as nws files.
> 2. You don't tell us the news server you are using, nor the group you are
> having difficulty with, so it's impossible to check and try to help you.
> As stated earlier, the problem is most likely with the retention policy of
> the news server in use and you need to query them. As a test, you can
> create a local mail folder, call it OldNews, then download messages and
> select all the downloaded messages (or just a portion of them) and use the
> right click/copy to selection to copy them to the OldNews folder for
> retention. Many binary group users to do this to ensure they can get and
> retain all parts of multipart messages.
>
> So, without more info from you that is specific to the questions above, I
> don't see how we can help more. Good luck.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
> Please reply only to newsgroup.
>
>
> "SafetyMan" <safetyman2010@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:k%u0d.18871$MQ5.12185@attbi_s52...
>> What is happening is that all the headers and downloaded messages from
>> yesterday delete themselves upon opening OE today. This has been
>> happening since I got this machine over a year ago. I am just getting
>> tired of it now. I downloaded some messages last night and cannot read
>> them today. I don't think XPSP2 has anything to do with it.
>> SafetyMan
>>
>> "Jim Pickering" <jimp@mvps.0rg> wrote in message
>> news:eZkmQJ7lEHA.952@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Are these messages you have saved to your Desktop actual *.nws files?
>>> How are you saving them to the Desktop?
>>>
>>> If you mean that the messages when clicked opens Outlook Express, but
>>> then are blank in the Preview Pane, try the following and see if it
>>> helps. Click Start/Run and type: regsvr32 inetcomm.dll
>>>
>>> Then open the message again and see if it's readable. If you are
>>> posting from the problem machine (which the headers show has XPSP2
>>> installed), it's possible that your install of SP2 is corrupted,
>>> particularly if you allowed an antivirus program to remain running
>>> during the installation. If that's the case, I'd try uninstalling SP2,
>>> reboot, shut down any antivirus program and reinstall SP2 and see if
>>> that fixes the problem. See the link below for how to uninstall:
>>>
>>> 875350 - How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;875350
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
>>> Please reply only to newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>> "SafetyMan" <safetyman2010@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:PKt0d.151505$9d6.58755@attbi_s54...
>>>>I cannot see messages that I have downloaded onto my desktop. They are
>>>>not on any server
>>>> View >Current View>Show All Messages and Group Messages by conversation
>>>> are checked
>>>> Tools>Options>Maintenance>Delete All Messages After (30) Days is
>>>> checked
>>>>
>>>> Safetyman
>>>> "Jim Pickering" <jimp@mvps.0rg> wrote in message
>>>> news:O81nhU6lEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>> It could be that the server you are using "ages" messages off the
>>>>> server rapidly. This happens with many news servers that host binary
>>>>> groups to avoid the huge storage requirements to maintain the
>>>>> messages. In some cases, the retention period for newsgroups on those
>>>>> servers is measured in hours and when you next connect, those messages
>>>>> that have been "aged" from the server are removed from your local copy
>>>>> of the newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> The size of the newsgroup dbx file can be reduced to reclaim the
>>>>> wasted space by compacting the group involved. This assumes that your
>>>>> View setting does not have the option to "Hide Read Messages" checked.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
>>>>> Please reply only to newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "SafetyMan" <safetyman2010@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9Hs0d.166718$Fg5.74471@attbi_s53...
>>>>>> Those are already checked. Anything else?
>>>>>> SafetyMan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ehFD5O5lEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> In View>Current View - Check: Show all messages and Group Messages
>>>>>>> by conversation.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>>>> ~IB-CA~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "SafetyMan" <safetyman2010@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:z7r0d.22575$D%.13365@attbi_s51...
>>>>>>>>I have OE 6.00.2900. Everyday when I check my newsgroup messages all
>>>>>>>>the previous day's headers and any downloaded messages are deleted
>>>>>>>>and I'll be darned if I can figure out how to get them back. I went
>>>>>>>>to the store folder and see that the newsgroup folder is large, so
>>>>>>>>the messages have not been deleted. How can I see what I downloaded
>>>>>>>>yesterday?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SafetyMan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



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