Re: msimn.exe won't quit
From: Steve (nr4p_at_NOJUNKearthlink.net)
Date: 08/01/04
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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 13:24:15 GMT
Jim, compaction is turned off.
Even tried a brand new identity and problem started immediately. Right after
first exit and log off, couldn't reopen OE6 with going into Task Mgr and
stopping the msimn process manually.
Its not that msimn.exe is shutting down, problem is that it not shutting
down. Do a "exit and log off identity" and msimn.exe won't quit.
Now with respect to McAfee, PC did originally come with a McAfee 90day trial
2 years ago. After 90days never paid for subscription, and deleted it.
Wonder if there's some remnants of it in there somewhere causing the
headache?
--
Steve
"Jim Pickering" <jimp@mvps.0rg> wrote in message
news:O$wbYU3dEHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Do you have the option set in OE under Tools/Options/Maintenance to
Compact
> Messages in the Background? That's the usual cause and forcing a shutdown
> of msimn.exe under those conditions could cause a corruption to occur in
> your message store folders.
>
> The McAffee problem involved users with an old version of McAffee who
> upgraded without uninstalling the earlier version which led to the
problem.
> Very few people still have that version of McAffee installed since it's
now
> obsolete and no longer supported.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP-Outlook Express
> Please reply only to newsgroup.
>
>
> "Steve" <nr4p@NOJUNKearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:SMYOc.21749$iK.12206@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >I had done that previously. Added them back in groups and kept testing
OE.
> > Oddly enough after adding back all the items to startup, OE worked great
> > for
> > a few hours. No problems.
> > Then the next day, problem back. Obviously frustrating.
> >
> > Whats interesting there's a ref to this problem in the MS KB but it says
> > its
> > a conflict with McAfee and to contact them. Searching the McAfee site,
> > nothing like this is mentioned. Although I don't have McAfee thought
there
> > may be a clue there to look for some registry key etc.
> >
> > --
> > Steve
> > "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> > news:OWAJbfvdEHA.724@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> Try going to Start | Run and type msconfig and disable all startup
items
> > and
> >> non-MS services and then reboot. See if that fixes the problem. If it
> >> does, then its one of those startup items causing the trouble.
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "Steve" <nr4p@NOJUNKearthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:9LCOc.3225$Jp6.506@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > Background compaction is off.
> >> > I created a new identity, and once I close it (exit and log off
> > identity),
> >> > msimn.exe stays running.
> >> >
> >> > Have a third PC now with NIS and NAV running with OE6 and XP Home,
does
> >> not
> >> > exhibit the problem. This started after latest rounds of MS updates,
> >> > suspect that's the root cause.
> >> >
> >> > steve
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Steve
> >> > "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:uz9DXPjdEHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > Make sure that background compaction is turned off for each
identity.
> >> > >
> >> > > steve
> >> > >
> >> > > "Steve" <nr4p@NOJUNKearthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:d5iOc.2086$Jp6.171@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > > > I turned off NAV and NIS and still had the problem.
> >> > > > After living with the problem for a day, it started working
> >> > > > normally
> >> > > again.
> >> > > > And today, back to the original problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Whats odd I have two PC's with many of the same applications
> > running.
> >> > > Esp.
> >> > > > NAV and NIS and one PC is perfect and the other has the problem.
> > Both
> >> > run
> >> > > > Home XP.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Still searching for the root cause.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Steve
> >> > > > "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:eQoSuiSdEHA.3212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > Still trying to identify what the cause is.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Maybe between the two of you, you can find out what's in common
> > and
> >> > find
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > solution. It's not easy to duplicate a problem when it doesn't
> > exist
> >> > on
> >> > > > > other machines.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "chashome Pro 2" <chashome@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > > > > news:O$185%23RdEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > I've got the same problem!!!!!!!!!!
> >> > > > > > Does Microsoft windows XP have a fix for this?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> >> > > > > > news:eHYeYz3cEHA.400@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > >> Disable NAV and NIS and test with them off.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Also, load up each Identity then log off of each but not
exit
> >> > (except
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > >> last one of course).
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Then check the Running value after closing OE.
> >> > > > > >> (HKCU\Identities\{USER_ID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
> >> Express\5.0)
> >> > > for
> >> > > > > > each
> >> > > > > >> Identity to see which might still have it running. It will
be
> >> > > > > >> a
> >> > value
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > >> 1
> >> > > > > >> if it is. Should be 0 with it off.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> "Steve" <nr4p@NOJUNKearthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> > > > > >> news:pliNc.14969$iK.2716@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > > > > >> > turned off the compaction. Applied it, restarted, problem
> >> still
> >> > > > there.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > Steve
> >> > > > > >> > "DGuess" <majik@mindspring.oops> wrote in message
> >> > > > > >> > news:%23roCPW3cEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> "Steve" <nr4p@NOJUNKearthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> > > > > >> >>
news:SohNc.15420$f4.4424@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > > > > >> >> > Well after searching MS KB and Googling for days
without
> >> luck
> >> > > > > >> >> > thought
> >> > > > > >> > I'd
> >> > > > > >> >> > try here.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> Thanks for looking there first, shows good use of the
gray
> >> > matter
> >> > > > > >> >> which
> >> > > > > > a
> >> > > > > >> >> lot of others don't use.
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> > Using OE6 with XP Home.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >> > About a week ago, whenever I "exit and log off
identity"
> > OE
> >> > > closes
> >> > > > > > but
> >> > > > > >> >> > can't
> >> > > > > >> >> > reopen it due to msimn.exe not quitting. Have to stop
it
> > in
> >> > > Task
> >> > > > > >> >> > Mgr
> >> > > > > >> >> > or
> >> > > > > >> >> > restart.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> Look in Tools | Options | Maintenance tab
> >> > > > > >> >> Ensure that background compaction is turned off.
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> > MS KB mentions the problem is related to McAfee but I
> > don't
> >> > have
> >> > > > > >> >> > McAfee,
> >> > > > > >> >> > interesting its dated June 2004 too, a new problem.
Use
> > NAV
> >> > (up
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > >> > date)
> >> > > > > >> >> > and Norton Int Security on 3 different PC's but only
one
> > PC
> >> > has
> >> > > > this
> >> > > > > >> >> > problem.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> Check the compacting in the background first. It will do
> > that
> >> > when
> >> > > > > >> >> it's
> >> > > > > >> >> running and you close OE. It stays till it's finished.
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> > Have gone into registry, reset keys (changed install
1's
> > to
> >> > 0's)
> >> > > > so
> >> > > > > >> >> > I
> >> > > > > >> >> > could
> >> > > > > >> >> > reinstall OE6 and IE6 but that didn't fix it either.
> >> > > > > >> >> > Even tried a new identity but it exhibits the problem.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> Not all values will be 0's or 1's. There are quite a few
> > that
> >> > use
> >> > > > > >> >> other
> >> > > > > >> >> values, believe me, I know, it took me long enough to
> > document
> >> > it.
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> > Suggestions are certainly welcome.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
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