Re: Message rules question again

From: Pop (nobody_at_spamcop.net)
Date: 07/25/04


Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:46:09 -0400


"Bob Moyer" <bob.moyer@dol.net> wrote in message
news:eRJFI6NcEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I posted a day or so ago about messages with a blank
subject line concerning
> something I find extremely offensive. I followed the
suggestions given
> about listing a,e,i,o,u and 1 through 0 and having them
deleted (per the
> post). However, it doesn't seem to be working. I even
added another rule
> that if the word 'penis' or 'enlargement' is used in the
body of the message
> to delete it also. That isn't working either. I get
about 5 to 10 of these
> emails daily. If I click on the properties of these
messages, the senders
> are all different and use various domain addresses. The
first 5 letters of
> the address are all the same 'gatew...' (the dots are
varying letters,
> sometimes two and sometimes three). Please can anyone
help me stop these??
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
Bob, it looks like you're getting pretty decent advice here,
but I'd like to add that even once you get your rules set up
to do what you're working on now, it won't be long before
the crap starts to sneak past your filters again. As a
serious and very active spamfighter, I'm painfully aware of
the methods spammers of these sort of sites use.
   So, if you're only concerneed about specific words
showing up, you might be by, but I don't think the filtering
solution will work for very long for you. Spammers are a
crafty breed and very adept at getting around filters.
   There are some other things you can do, but rather than
write a long post, I'll boil it down to:

Create a new account called Spam? Come at this from a new
direction: Filter out everythbing that's not TO or CC to
you.

-- Create rules that look for YOUR email address:
   If it's in the body, send it to spam
   If it's in the subject, send it to spam
   If it's not addressed to you, send it to spam.
Then, read your own mail in the inbox. Check the Spam?
folder now and then to see if good mails is getting in
there. Is so, see if you can fix the filter somehow, and
periodically delete the remaining spam. After awhile all it
takes is aglance to kn ow whether it'sw spam or not.

   It might take a little finessing until you get it right,
but that works better than creating many, many rules that
won't be effective for more than a couple of weeks. Trying
to filter specific spams will end up requireing thousands of
filters eventually, so instead filter out what you WANT;
it's easier to write rules for.

Some other things you can do are pay ($12/yr I think it is)
for an account at spamcop.NET. They filter all spam to a
spam folder for you to check out, and are very accurate.
Works extremely well. www.spamcop.NET

Yahoo and HOmtail are also useful for catching the majority
of spam, letting you keep your ISP accounts for only
special, trusted sources. NEVER use your real address to
sign up for anything! Use a yahoo or hbotmail, etc.
instead. Then it if gets too much spam, you can just
abandon it and get a new one.

Another possibility is a program called MailWasher. It can
use several blocklists and is excellent at separating out
and tagging spam for you. It has ONE extremely BAD feature,
which is to "bounce" mail back to the source, BUT, since 99%
of spam uses forged heaaders, 99% of the time it "bounces"
to innocent parties, NOT the spammer! So, don't use the
Bounce feature. Otherwise it works great.

The whole idea is to get your "real" email address off the
internet so the spammers can't find it. Then all you have
left are the dictionary spammers to contend with, which is
cured by giving your username a specific format.

Lots of other possibilities, but this's plenty for now.

Pop



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