Re: Should this be here?

From: N. Miller (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 07/24/04


Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:23:14 -0700

In article <361901c47187$49274310$a501280a@phx.gbl>, says...

> Isn't this type stuff out of taste for this forum?

Well, if you are referring to the occasional bit of porn spam, or any other
kind of spam, yes. But this is not a "forum", in the sense of a moderated
web site. This is a series of messages, called, "articles", which are posted
to an NNTP, or "news" server. I use a news client called, "Super Gravity
2.60", and tell it to post articles to an NNTP server run by Microsoft, and
called, 'msnews.microsoft.com'. If you could see my full message headers
(which you can't, and I will explain why you can't), you would see, among
the other lines, one like this one:

User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.60.2060

The reason that you can't see the full headers is because you are not
reading the message directly off of the NNTP server, you are reading the
message as presented by the Microsoft "Collaborative Data Object" to an HTTP
server; which you then access using your browser; probably some flavor of MS
Internet Explorer, though a few test messages that I posted with Mozilla
1.7.1 don't seem to have any different headers.

But a real news client, like my "Super Gravity", or even just MS Outlook
Express, will show the full headers; letting me see the news client line in
your posts:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000

If you want to post articles, and access them, as I do, you can easily set
up MSOE to do it. Tools > Accounts > Add... > News. Follow the wizard. I
***strongly*** urge you to use an email address along the lines of
<no.spam.here@please.invalid> when you set up the account. If you will use
the 'msnews.microsoft.com' server (when the wizard asks for the server
name), you may use <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>, if you wish. The
server does not require authentication, and it does not require that you use
a real, working email address at any point.

Oh, and there are system administrators who do clear commercial
advertisements, eventually. How they appear on the web site I do not know.
When they are removed from the server, I get a little 'x' in a box by the
message icon of the Subject:. And no body.

-- 
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint


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