Re: another POP client-can U help

From: *Vanguard* (no-email_at_reply-to-newsgroup.invalid)
Date: 05/23/04


Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:07:51 -0500

MR said in news:eChkfY8PEHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
> Gee thanks Vanguard- You really took the time to type alot to give
> info-Hats off to you!!! I too like yahoo so that I dont have to
> change e-mail address if I choose to change ISP's -I have dial-up-
> SO overall you say the program is good- Maybe I will give it a try- I
> have 3 yahoo accounts so I might try the one I use on the net in and
> practice with that one instead my main one.
> You did not mention anything about viruses- I use AVG free version,
> ZA free version, & ad-aware free version- How will I be protected
> from viruses if I get Yahoo pops. Can I scan using AVG before opening
> it??
> I am somewhat a beginner in this internet stuff so I may not have
> understood 100% of your post but kinda got a pretty good picture as
> to what you advised.
> BTW, whan I got yahoo last year , 4 MB of space is what I have-And
> yes, now the trash folder does not count as space.
> thanks again

The anti-virus programs work at 2 levels. It will check when you create
or update a file on your drive. It will scan e-mails that get sent to
your e-mail client. Adding YahooPOPs does nothing to alter this
behavior. Scanning your e-mails for viruses is actually duplicating the
efforts of your anti-virus product; i.e., checking the files is
sufficient, but some of us like duplicate checks. Anti-virus e-mail
scanners used to run as proxies (just like YahooPOPs is a proxy) and you
had to edit the username and mail server fields (like you do for
YahooPOPs). However, most have gone to using transparent proxies that
you don't get to configure (so they reduced the user's control over how
the proxies will chain together and what ports they will use). AVG
should integrate nicely. You shouldn't have to do any manual scanning
as, I believe, AVG includes an e-mail scanner (may only be for inbound
e-mails but that protects you).

As yet, I don't believe any anti-virus program will scan across multiple
part e-mails looking for a piece of a virus in each. That used to be
one means of getting a virus past the anti-virus products. However,
once you combine the multiparts into one e-mail to create the file then
the anti-virus scanner should catch it. Multipart e-mails are rare,
either used by folks getting porn that is too big for their mailbox
quota or an idiot trying to use e-mail for file transfer instead of
using FTP or HTTP servers (like putting the file on your personal web
page and put a link to it in your e-mail). Some anti-spam software will
actually mark the multipart messages as spam (I use the HTML-Modify
plug-in for SpamPal and have it do this, and my spam rules end up moving
the suspect messages into the Junk folder which is configured to
auto-archive every 3 days but with an action of permanently delete).

When you install YahooPOPs, it will use port 110 for POP3 (and port 25
for SMTP if you enable it). This may require that you be logged in
under an admin-level account to usurp ports under 1024 (but not for the
ethereal ports at 1024 and up). To eliminate the potential for a
problem when using YahooPOPs under a non-admin account, use non-standard
ports. That's why I have YahooPOPs use 8110 for POP3 and 8025 for SMTP.

For my Yahoo accounts, I was more concerned about the Bulk folder's
consumption of my quota than the Trash folder. The Trash folder gets
periodically and automatically purged every few days. However, spam
moved into the Bulk folder by their anti-spam function would remain for
30 days. That was ridiculously too long. Spammers or a malcontent
would slam an account with so many e-mails that the account quota got
used up and the account would become unresponsive (all further messages
would get rejected). They now do not include the Bulk folder against
your quota, but they now also offer a user-selectable retention period
(I set mine to the minimum of 1 week). In fact, I'd like to define my
server-side rules in my Yahoo account to move suspect messages into the
Bulk folder to provide a safety net to catch false positives, but their
rules don't offer the Bulk folder as a destination for a rule that moves
a message.

Once you start using YahooPOPs, use their forums to get help. The
community is more focused on supporting that product.

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