Re: another POP client-can U help
From: garou (junkmail_at_balancegames.org)
Date: 05/22/04
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Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 07:57:31 -0500
OLE Has HTTP service built in to work with hotmail accounts. Has anyone
sucessfully gotten this to work with Yahoos mail?
"*Vanguard*" <no-email@reply-to-newsgroup.invalid> wrote in message
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> MR said in news:ei0QUd7PEHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
> > Hi- I was at majorgeeks download web site-I use regular yahoo for my
> > emails- I have 3 with them for diferent needs-But, I dont have POP in
> > the free version. I noticed that one of the downloads in the email
> > section was a program called "Yahoo Pops" (or similar)-Basically, it
> > says it does what it says like O.Express- I wonder if one could get
> > in trouble or have difficulties for getting this pop thing because it
> > is not from yahooŽ.
> > the original company-And as you know there are alot of pop free ware
> > or pay type that can offer this. My ISP gives me pop3 because it was
> > included-But I rarely use that email account-99% of the time I use
> > yahoo. Any help if you have used free pop clients other than OE or
> > even the yahoopops one I mention here???????
> > I want to be able to check email without going online and read
> > reviews on some on cnet too but too much negative posts that I wonder
> > if it is not wise. thanks in advance
>
> I have used YahooPOPs for maybe a year. It got more stable at version
> 0.5. Download from yahoopops.sourceforge.net. It runs as a local
> HTTP-to-POP3 protocol converter proxy on your computer. You define a
> POP3 e-mail account in your e-mail client to connect to YahooPOPs which
> then uses HTTP to connect to Yahoo. YahooPOPs also allows you to use
> MD5 hashing or SSL to secure your login. Yahoo supports both.
> YahooPOPs allows you to have POP3-like access to your Yahoo e-mail
> without having to pay Yahoo for access to their POP3 and SMTP servers.
> However, YahooPOPs will be slower at getting your e-mails. A connect to
> a POP3 server might take a second to retrieve several e-mails but it
> might take a minute for YahooPOPs (depends on how fast is the Yahoo
> webmail service).
>
> I really doubt Yahoo doesn't know about YahooPOPs. They don't care if
> you use it because you are still using their small-quota freebie webmail
> account with a slower response than if you used their paid-for premium
> service with POP3/SMTP servers and faster response. The webmail
> interface for Yahoo, like Hotmail, can become unresponsive at times so
> YahooPOPs (and your e-mail client using it) won't be able to yank your
> e-mails.
>
> Yahoo freebie accounts are pretty small for disk quota. When I signed
> up, and to this day, my quota is 6MB, but I think new accounts only get
> 2MB. Hotmail never counted items in the Trash folder against your quota
> there but Yahoo did. However, I believe Yahoo recently changed that
> policy so items in your Bulk and Trash folders do not count against your
> quote. This helps eliminate an account going dead because it filled up
> with spam slamming the account and consuming all the quota. YahooPOPs
> can be configured to empty the Bulk and Trash folder after a mail poll,
> and I still have it configured that way. This ensures that my Bulk and
> Trash folders don't get filled up. The Bulk folder gets filled with
> spam detected by Yahoo's anti-spam filtering (enabled). The Trash
> folder can get filled up with deletes caused by my rules defined under
> my Yahoo account. That was before. Now Yahoo lets you configure the
> holding time for the Bulk folder. It used to be a ridiculously long 30
> days but now you can configure it for 1, 2, or 4 weeks (so I set it to 1
> week). I no longer have YahooPOPs empty the Bulk folder just in case
> there is a false positive on an e-mail that I am expecting, like a
> confirmation/completion e-mail from signing up for some service or site
> or after placing an order. I still leave YahooPOPs configured to empty
> my Trash folder (which would have messages deleted by my server-side
> rules in my Yahoo account). You could have YahooPOPs include yanking
> your Bulk e-mails and then rely on anti-spam software to get rid of it,
> like SpamPal, but it is rare that I want any of the Bulk stuff so I just
> configure Yahoo to expire it after 1 week.
>
> If you read Yahoo's Terms of Use, nowhere do they demand that you use
> THEIR webmail interface to use their freebie webmail accounts. By using
> YahooPOPs you make it much easier to use your POP3 e-mail client to yank
> your Yahoo e-mails. You can also use YahooPOPs' SMTP server to send
> your outbound e-mails back through your Yahoo account but that ends up
> with their damn promotional spam signature at the end of your outbound
> e-mails. Instead I configure my Yahoo POP3 e-mail account to yank
> through YahooPOPs but send through my ISP's SMTP server. By using
> YahooPOPs, you also don't have to see all those advertisements on their
> webmail pages. However, remember that using YahooPOPs won't be as
> reliable as using SMTP simply because Yahoo's webmail interface is not
> reliable (i.e., it may be unresponsive, under maintenance and out of
> service, unreachable, or altered so massively that you will need an
> updated YahooPOPs to reconnect again [this has happened once]). You
> also adding the YahooPOPs proxy in the e-mail delivery path. I have
> seen YahooPOPs go unresponsive so you have to kill it in Task Manager
> and then restart it (using the shortcut in your Startup group)
>
> I use Yahoo e-mail accounts to eliminate having my e-mail changed when I
> change Internet providers. When I had dial-up service, I was probably
> changing ISPs about every 8 months. I now use Comcast broadband (they
> are the only provider in my area) but they refuse to let me keep my
> username when I move to a new address and have to terminate my old
> service and start new service. Yahoo Mail is more reliable (i.e., more
> often up) than Hotmail and I like their compose editor better (at the
> webmail page) but it still has gone down often enough that I still
> occasionaly consider dropping it and using my ISP-provided e-mail
> account(s). That's a problem, however, with Yahoo, not with YahooPOPs.
>
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